Revit Radial Array Problem - In-Place Mass vs Generic Model-In-Place...?

[pearlofsadness]

I am trying to do a FULL circle radial array to my In-Place Mass and realised it is not going with the Circle Line I want it to...

Whereas it works perfectly fine with Generic Model-In-Place...

Can someone please let me know what to do? I am so confused...

Generic Model In Place:

In Place Mass:

[Alfredo_Medina]

In-place mass do not respond well to some things, such as radial arrays. I see that the shape of that object is simple and it can be done easily as an extrusion. Then start a new family with the generic model template, and do that solid. Then load that family and do the array. That will work fine. 

If you really need to do a polar array of a mass or adaptive form, it is better to do it as a repetition, using a circle as a divided path in a generic model adaptive familiy.

[pearlofsadness]

Thank you so much for your reply...!

Yes, I need to use thay specific Mass in-place...

May I please request you to do a snapshot or short clip on the steps you mentioned if I still need to use a In-Place Mass to do a full-circular array?

The part where you said, "as a repetition, using a circle as a divided path in a generic model adaptive familiy".

Mine is an In-Place Mass that is the issue... Hope to be able to array it IN THE PROJECT itself...

Thank you again!

[barthbradley]

Clipboard Cut/Paste the In-Place Mass into a New Conceptual Mass Template Family. Load Family into Project. Array. 

[pearlofsadness]

Cannot:

[barthbradley]

I meant edit the In-Place Mass and Cut (or Copy) Mass Form to Clipboard. Start a new Family from the Conceptual Mass Template (Mass.rte) and Paste the Clipboard contents into this environment.   Is that what you did?  Doesn't look like it. 

[pearlofsadness]

yup entirely what I did... 😮

[barthbradley]

Hmm?  Should work. Post your RVT with the In-Place Mass here and let us take a look at it.  

[pearlofsadness]

Here 😞

[barthbradley]

Nothing "here". 

[pearlofsadness]

Sorry, internet was going crazy. Uploaded on the previous post 🙂

[ToanDN]

Array in-place components is never a good idea.  Create a conceptual mass family, load it in and array it.

[barthbradley]

Works like a charm.

See attached.

[barthbradley]

1. Go to 3D View in your Revit Project

2. Show Mass Forms and Floors in View

3. Select Mass

4. Press Edit in Place 

5. Select entirety of Mass Form via TAB-Select or Crossing-Window Selection

6. CTRL X or CTRL C -- or use the Copy or Cut tool on the Clipboard Panel of the Modify Tab

7. File=>New=>Conceptual Mass 

8. In new Conceptual Mass Family environment, press CTRL V -- or use Paste on the Clipboard Panel of the Modify Tab. 

[pearlofsadness]

it keeps showing the same error... 😞

[barthbradley]

Did you open the file I posted above?  That's your Project's In-Place Mass put into a Conceptual Mass Family.  

[pearlofsadness]

Yes your family works. And the steps work. What I am actually disturbed about is why I am not able to do the copy and paste thing into the conceptual mass family from my in-place mass like what u did?

It kept showing me that error even now... Yes, ur file works, but I am not able to do the copying into the conceptual mass family on my own....

[barthbradley]

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@pearlofsadness wrote:

Yes your family works. And the steps work. What I am actually disturbed about is why I am not able to do the copy and paste thing into the conceptual mass family from my in-place mass like what u did?

It kept showing me that error even now... Yes, ur file works, but I am not able to do the copying into the conceptual mass family on my own....

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Yah, that is strange if you are absolutely certain you precisely followed my step-by-step instructions above and used a Mass.RTE.   

[ToanDN]

Edit the in in place mass, select everything, Ctrl+c. Go to the mass conceptual family, Ctrl+v.