Revit Lt - PDF Insert

[billgregory]

Dear Autodesk - Revit LT Attribute Managers -

Could Autodesk please update 2022 Revit Lt with a patch to allow the import or link of PDF's. This is a very very very common requirement on all projects and it is unprofessional and cheap for Autodesk to require Lt users to have to convert a simple pdf to a raster image just to be able to link or insert a pdf. The conversion process usually leads to loss of image quality and in addition, the added time it takes is EXTREMELY frustrating. Is someone going to purchase the full Revit version just to be able to link pdfs - N0, but it certainly doesn't leave a very good impression of Autodesk as we scramble to make lesser quality and more time consuming conversions. Small <11x17 pdfs are fine to scan and import as a raster image but they are not as clear as the original pdf and then the larger format images such as full size sheets of surveys, consultants sheets, etc., can also be run through file converters but the quality is also lost and the TIME consumed - should be a simple and easy process as allowed by the full version. I think of the Autodesk individuals and teams and leaders and the probable many white board sessions that pondered and considered what was in and what was out of the Lt version and I cannot fathom the pettiness of those that decided it was out. In the words of our now "Great Leader" - "Come-On-Man".

Thanks,

Bill Gregory, AIA, Los Angeles

[barthbradley]

Cannot insert a PDF into model in Revit LT | Revit LT | Autodesk Knowledge Network

[billgregory]

Exactly the point Barth. Can the Autodesk management correct this obvious flaw? Or do we need to continue to mindlessly and powerlessly follow work around options 1, 2, and or 3? If so, for what purpose. Every week, I get emails from Archicad, Chief, etc. asking me to try them out. Isn't a provider of services supposed to listen to their customers. If I had a client and I continued to not listen to them and not address their needs, I wouldn't have them very long.

[RobDraw]

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@billgregory wrote:
Exactly the point Barth. Can the Autodesk management correct this obvious flaw? 

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It's hardly a flaw. It's not like the ability is there and it doesn't work. LT does not have that option. You bought a limited version of the software. If it's so important to you, why didn't you buy the full version.

BTW, this is a user help forum. New feature requests belong in the IDEAS forum where Autodesk will read them. They don't read most of the threads in this forum.

[RDAOU]

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@billgregory 

You can't buy a FORD FIESTA then complain that its not a Shelby GT500!!! 

Revit (the full version) is a product and Revit LT is the LITE version of it. Even though they share the first name, they are two different products.. That being said, the only obvious flaw in this situation is buying something mindlessly without being well informed about it. 

They email you every week? Seriously?

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@billgregory wrote:
Every week, I get emails from Archicad, Chief, etc. asking me to try them out. 

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[barthbradley]

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[drobson]

AutoCAD LT allows inserting PDF's. There's no reasonable excuse for AutoDESK not doing the same with RevitLT. Persuading AutoCAD LT users to cross over to Revit but then withdrawing one of the most basic (yes, even light weight users) functions is a nonsense. Requiring light users to pay seven times the price just to enable them to trace over a PDF as they were able to before on AutoCAD LT (most vector generated pdfs have snapable points and lines) is annoying at best and most likely an oversight that needs correcting. Bearing in mind how long it took Revit to enable generation of PDFs (pretty standard in nearly all software these days), I am not filled with optimism.

[RobDraw]

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@drobson wrote:

AutoCAD LT allows inserting PDF's. There's no reasonable excuse for AutoDESK not doing the same with RevitLT. 

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Why are you responding to me?

First off, they are different programs. That alone is a reasonable "excuse". Also, they don't have to have a reason that makes sense to you.

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@drobson wrote:

Requiring light users to pay seven times the price just to enable them to trace over a PDF as they were able to before on AutoCAD LT (most vector generated pdfs have snapable points and lines) is annoying at best and most likely an oversight that needs correcting. Bearing in mind how long it took Revit to enable generation of PDFs (pretty standard in nearly all software these days), I am not filled with optimism.

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Your opinion isn't going to change anything here in a user help forum. In fact, it's quite flawed. Why aren't you posting someplace where it might get some traction?

You sound more like someone with buyers remorse than someone with a good suggestion.

[drobson]

Ah my mistake.
I misunderstood the term "Revit Architecture Forum". I missed the "User Help" heading.
You are correct of course, AutoDesk do not need any excuses for any aspects of their products. Take it or leave it, you get what they sell you. It is indeed consumer choice.
Buyers remorse (unnecessary comment - it is a users help forum after all).
Having used AutoDESK products for the past 34 years, consistency and compatibility between their different programs has been one of their strengths. Keeping consistency with PDF handling across their LT products would be one of their more useful "improvements" for Revit LT.
Keep posting the Revit useability work arounds.

[LicensedARCH]

Asking questions here is a crapshoot…

it is a user “help” forum but you often get condescending a-holes waste their own time just to tell you how stupid you are and, in contrast, how smart they think they are and must let you know. 
Once in a while, you’ll get lucky and grab them (the same a-holes) on a good mood and they will actually help, though.

I have the same problem using Revit LT. 

I wish Autodesk would listen (unlikely) or one of these smart asses would spend some time trying to help.

Good luck to you!

[billgregory]

Autodesk has made the pdf insert available in the 2024 version of Revit Lt. They sent a very nice e-mail on 4/5/2023 stating so and thanking me for the request.


Hi billgregory,


kimberly.fuhrman (Autodesk) posted a new comment in Revit Ideas<> on 04-05-2023 08:06 AM .


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Re: Revit LT PDF importer - Status changed to: Implemented<>
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We are pleased to say that this has been implemented in Revit LT 2024! Thank you for your contribution to improving Revit! Link and Import PDF in Revit LT & Design Automation API - Architecture - Revit Public Roadmap | Product Roadmap (productboard.com) -The Factory

[LicensedARCH]

Look at that!
They do listen to some things!
I have not upgraded to Revit LT 2024 yet.
Are you using it?
Any issues?
I upgraded to 2023 too soon last year and it screwed up some of my files…
Let me know, please.
Thanks for the response