Revit LT 2021 Section/Plan Poche Issues

[J_Lewis87]

Has anyone encountered an issue with the way Revit LT 2021 handles colored poche in section/plan? In Revit LT 2019 I was able to use the override command in Visibility Settings to make the poche pink. The color showed up in all modes -- Hidden Line to Realistic.

When I opened the same file in Revit LT 2021, I could still see the pink poche in all settings EXCEPT Realistic where just a hint of it is visible. What Revit seems to do in realistic mode is overlay a patchy grey poche over any color including white. The only color not affected is black.

1) I tried turning shadows on and off.

2) I tried resetting the override to white and then back to pink.

3) I tried changing from course to fine.

4) I tried overrides of foreground and background.

5) I tried changes to floors (general and slab), walls, and ceilings.

6) I changed the course color from black to pink.

7) I changed the cut pattern color to pink in the material browser.

6) Then I started a new drawing and repeated all of these steps.

The only way the poche returns is when I use a setting other than realistic.

Any ideas?  I'm stumped. Somewhere Revit LT 2021 is overlaying/overriding solid fill patterns in the Realistic setting but I cannot find if, where or how it can be turned off.

[barthbradley]

Shaded uses the Material's Graphics Tab Settings

Realistic uses the Material's Appearance Tab Settings 

[barthbradley]

[J_Lewis87]

But shouldn't visibility graphics override both?

I mean, I went to the appearance tab and there is nothing to imply why I'm getting a patchy grey poche over the pink fill. And of course this wasn't happening in v 2019.

[barthbradley]

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@J_Lewis87 wrote:

But shouldn't visibility graphics override both?

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GRAPHIC Overrides.  

[J_Lewis87]

I'm trying to achieve this appearance - Realistic section with colored poche. V. 2019 could do it with no problem. V 2021 can't.

[barthbradley]

Post the 2021 RVT

[J_Lewis87]

I did. It's the second image within my first post labeled Revit LT 2021 REALISTIC.

[barthbradley]

Post your Revit (*.RVT) file.  

[J_Lewis87]

Sure, see attached.  It's a section consisting of a roof, walls and a floor.

I made it from a new project template. The only changes were overrides to the fill pattern in Visibility/Graphics tab.

Pink shows up in all modes except Realistic where the pink seems to be covered by a patchy grey mask.

[J_Lewis87]

No one else has noticed this:

[barthbradley]

[J_Lewis87]

This won't work, but thank you for trying.  I need only the cut regions to be pink so the walls need to retain their realistic color. I don't believe your solution will allow this unless I'm missing a key point.

Autodesk reached out to me and one of their options was to make two views on a sheet overlayed on each other -- one with the walls in hidden mode to show the poche and one with the walls in realistic to show the elevation.  Unfortunately I cannot turn off the wall elevations and section cuts separately so an overlay situation is not possible that I could find even with masks. They offered two other options 1) Use filled regions, which means redrawing every region cut in section and 2) Use another Visual style (that's not a solution).

Revit used to be able to do what's in the attached image with ease. Now it's much more labor intensive with regions or photo editing in another program, and I believe they've known about it for months.

[barthbradley]

[barthbradley]

[barthbradley]

one more for you:

[barthbradley]

oops. Wrong one.  This one:

[barthbradley]

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@J_Lewis87 wrote:

Revit used to be able to do what's in the attached image with ease. Now it's much more labor intensive with regions or photo editing in another program, and I believe they've known about it for months.

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Some more picture of the "labor intensive" work of resizing a 3D Section Box.  Whew! I'm whopped. 

[J_Lewis87]

Interesting.

Might you be able to give a step by step process of how you were able to achieve this?  I can achieve similar ONLY IF I change the material to a generic pink color, as in your first attempt, and then paint all of the surfaces.   What I would like to know is if I can regularly assign materials to walls, floors and ceiling, then cut a section in elevation and/or plan and get my poche.

[syman2000]

If you edit type for 3d view, you can tell Revit what material you want to display if it is set to course detail. Sample below illustrate how you can easily change your material to red or whatever color.