revit curtain wall

[denizozer0633]

Hello,

I created custom curtain panel family. i added many material like stone, glass. After; i placed inside the curtain wall. but i didnt create material take off list include the  all my material.

Why can't I get square meters depending on the material?

THAKS...

[syman2000]

Depends how you create curtainwall panel. You need to provide screenshot and more information.

[denizozer0633]

For example; it has a 3 different material in curtain panel catogory.

And; it is a Curtain Wall.

The square meters of the 3 materials look the same. As you can see from the model, they must be in different square meters.

How can i edit?

Thanks...

[syman2000]

Are you using material takeoff?

When I generate schedule based on curtainwall, it is able to extract different material area

[barthbradley]

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@denizozer0633 wrote:

The square meters of the 3 materials look the same.

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They all have the same Area because they all have the same Area.  Length x Height = Area. 

Post the File. Let us take a look at this Custom Panel so we can see what workaround is needed.  

[ToanDN]

Create Calculated value parameters in the material take-off schedule to get Area from Volume of each component in your family.

[denizozer0633]

How can i create?

[denizozer0633]

thank you. how can i create? it is important for me.

[barthbradley]

Have you considered NOT using Curtain Wall Panels and instead using Basic Wall Types?  You can replace CW Panels with Basic Walls. Did you know this? Doing so will allow you to create Parts. Parts will allow you to modify/manipulate Wall Layers - AND you can create Parts Material Takeoff Schedules.   

Food for thought. 

About Curtain Wall Panels | Revit LT 2017 | Autodesk Knowledge Network

About Parts | Revit 2019 | Autodesk Knowledge Network

One more for you: Wall Sweeps. Looks like you might be able to employ them in your Curtain Wall's Basic Wall Panel design as well.

 Wall Sweeps | Revit | Autodesk Knowledge Network

[denizozer0633]

Thank you. In some places there are panels that I use with glass or sun shading. Should I use both wall and curtainwall at the same time?

[barthbradley]

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@denizozer0633 wrote:

Thank you. In some places there are panels that I use with glass or sun shading. Should I use both wall and curtainwall at the same time?

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Are you asking if you can mix panel types (Basic Walls + Curtain Wall Panels) in a Curtain Wall? Sure, you can.  Should you? Sure; whatever works for you.   BTW: a 1" thick Basic Wall could easily be a 1" thick System Panel. No difference in geometry -- or material. 

Do you mind sharing your RVT?  I might have other suggestions for you, including about Scheduling.  

[denizozer0633]

thank you so much

[denizozer0633]

I shared my curtain panel family.

[denizozer0633]

@barthbradley  i shared

[barthbradley]

I’m a little confused. Are you trying to use an MTO to report the total surface areas of all the cladding? If so, why?

[denizozer0633]

ı dont know another solution. how can i create this panel? should i use different basic wall type ? I need to all part seperate detail material schedule (m2-SF).

[barthbradley]

You might be able to get there by nesting together the components of the Curtain Panel - effectively assembling the Curtain Panel with fabricated parts inside the family.   

[denizozer0633]

Thank you @barthbradley .Could you sent the family? Thanks

[denizozer0633]

Curtain panel accept just one family inside the family. how can i placed seperately. i dont understand

[barthbradley]

It's easy to recreate. Just open your Curtain Panel Family and Clipboard Cut each Component/Material in the Family and Paste it - Aligned to Current View - into a Plan View of a Generic Model Family. One Generic Model Family per Component/Material. Check "Shared" in all the Families.  When you have cut out and made Families of all the Components/Materials, Nest each one of them back into Curtain Wall Panel Family - origin to origin (e.g. insertion point is where the x,y, Origin Ref. Planes intersect). Now reload the Curtain Panel Family into the Project and you use it in your Project's Curtain Wall - just as you did before.  Get it? 

2022 attached. 

NOTE: My components are not parametric. That's where the real work lies.  That ball is in your court.  Have fun.