Revit Cladding : Autocad Transition, Seeking Smart Annotation and Scheduling Tips

[buzzytrent]

Hi all,

New Revit user transitioning from Autocad, seeking a more efficient way to annotate cladding panel elevation views.

Currently using manual methods in Autocad with rectangles, Mtext, dims, etc. Want to recreate the process in Revit, hoping for automation or improved efficiency.

The curtain walling system in Revit seems promising, as it counts panels and their lengths, though only when there are no openings. This may be hard to automate the annotation if the panel lengths are not being calculated correctly.

Seeking guidance on generating a schedule that includes all panels, even those cut due to openings.

Screenshot below of wall system and curtain walling system & schedules.

Screenshot below of desired outcome using Autocad:

EDIT:

When I add a mullion profile, the schedule can automatically calculate the length of the mullion when it's cut due to wall openings.

However, I'm struggling to figure out how to achieve the same schedule functionality for curtain walling panels

[buzzytrent]

When I add a mullion profile, the schedule can automatically calculate the length of the mullion when it's cut due to wall openings.

However, I'm struggling to figure out how to achieve the same schedule functionality for curtain walling panels

[barthbradley]

How are you creating your openings. Via Empty System Panels or via Edit Profile?  

[barthbradley · Accepted solution]

By the looks of that last screenshot, it looks like you may be editing the profile.  Create openings via moving Grid Lines/Mullions and replacing Solid Curtain Panels at opening with Empty System Panels.  

[buzzytrent]

I am using the 'Rectanglular straight wall opening' from the 'modify|walls' - 'wall opening' sub section of the curtain walling system.

See attached project file for reference.

[buzzytrent]

Using your suggestion I have managed to create an opening using the grid system and it appears to schedule the majority of panels correctly except panels that have a grid/split halfway through them as highlighted below.

Thank you for your suggestion. However is there a faster way of creating openings and still achieving the same result as using the grid system? For instance using the rectangle line tool to denote the new grid segments? As having to add in and manipulate and remove each segment one at a time is rather tedious. If a building had 100s of openings it will not be a suitable solution.

TY

[barthbradley]

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@buzzytrent wrote:

Using your suggestion I have managed to create an opening using the grid system and it appears to schedule the majority of panels correctly except panels that have a grid/split halfway through them as highlighted below.

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Yes, your monolithic head and sill panels are going to be custom panels obviously. They are not rectangular.  They are polygonal. 

[buzzytrent]

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@barthbradley wrote:Yes, your monolithic head and sill panels are going to be custom panels obviously. They are not rectangular.  They are polygonal. 

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Understood, thank you.

Is it possible to use the overall panel height/width as the schedule output? As when a client orders materials from the drawing they will be ordering a full length panel and it will cut on site to suit the opening.

I am not looking for a tutorial as such, was just wondering if that was possible on Revit.

Thank you for your help regardless, it has solved the main issue I was having.

[barthbradley]

more rectangular panels?

[buzzytrent]

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@barthbradley wrote:

more rectangular panels?

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This is exactly what I am looking for. Would you mind explaining how you achieved this?

[barthbradley]

Use Add/Remove Segments tool to divide the "header" and "sill" panels. 

https://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2022/ENU/?guid=GUID-43DA0959-A541-459F-8370-C5149433FFB4

[buzzytrent]

Thank you.

Apologies I misread your last reply and thought the schedule length was the overall panel and not the separate head and cill and their adjacent panels panels respectively. 

I could change the mark of the adjacent panels to head/cill and combine the schedules to create an overall length manually. With the view to automate it down the line. 

[ToanDN]

If you don't want to add curtain grids then do this:

Select a panel > right click and Select Panels on Host > Create Parts. 

Create a material take-off parts schedule > add Length and Material Name > Filter by Material name.

[buzzytrent]

Thank you for your response.

I am currently AFK but will try this out when I get back to my desk.

[barthbradley]

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@buzzytrent wrote:

Thank you.

Apologies I misread your last reply and thought the schedule length was the overall panel and not the separate head and cill and their adjacent panels panels respectively. 

I could change the mark of the adjacent panels to head/cill and combine the schedules to create an overall length manually. With the view to automate it down the line. 

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Length? You asked about Height and Width. But whatever; you want to figure out the total number of off-the-shelf- sized panels needed; is that right? If so, it's just math and you have all that you need in that one schedule to make those mathematical calculations.  How did you do it in AutoCAD?  Using Area?  The Panel Schedule has Area Parameter. You can pull that Parameter into a Calculated Parameter to do the math.