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Revit annotating and dimensions

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braicodavid
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Revit annotating and dimensions

Hello,

 Just trying to annotate mt drawing sheets now. there's a couple issues i'm having. 

1. (see attached) I want to dimension from a 0 datum point as shown in the picture. I can't find any option that will allow me to do this.

2. I can't add keynotes? it says I have nothing loaded with keynotes. same with tags. i have gone into some families and given them a keynote value but still says there's nothing loaded with a keynote value. 

3. I just want advice of adding notes to a view. should I be doing this within the view or just on the sheet?

Thanks,

David

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SteveKStafford
als Antwort auf: braicodavid

There isn't an attache image to refer to. Item 1 sounds like you'd like to use the Ordinate style dimension, each dimension type has three fundamental formats: Continuous, Baseline, and Ordinate. Ordinate will create a dimension to multiple elements that all refer back to the first element. Baseline will provide a stack of dimensions that all reference back to the same starting element, instead of sketching individual dimension strings yourself.

 

"Keynotes" is a troublesome term. Are you referring to the Keynoting tools or keynotes as an architectural convention? There are several ways people deal with the concept of keynoting for documentation, one of which is actually called Keynotes in Revit. Another approach uses Noteblocks, an annotation family that is placed on views and then a Noteblock Schedule that provides a report summary of any noteblock families that have been used. The last is just using text and lines to simulate a schedule of notes. The documentation is worth a read through (some of what I wrote for them when they were introduced, in 2009, is still in the help documentation today).

 

Revit User Help for Keynotes

 

If you are using Keynotes (Revit feature) then it relies an an external Keynote file and Keynote tag family that displays the keynote number or description (or both). You need the keynote tag family loaded in your project. When you place a Keynote you'll see three options: Element, Material and User. Element keynotes are determined by the Keynote parameter that each family has (Type Parameter).

 

Material keynotes do the same but for the material assigned to the element you select. For compound elements like walls each layer in section can have a unique material so each can be tagged by a material keynote.

 

User Keynotes are for ad hoc conditions that provide additional information that goes beyond an elements own Keynote parameter. For example, a keynote for a data outlet can specify the back box, # of terminations and face plate but a User Keynote can be applied too that adds, "Provide two additional drops for future use".

 

Keynotes are attached to elements so they need to applied in views. The general practice of notes using text is to place those in views too, relevant to the items there. The exception might be general notes on the front end. Even those are usually placed using Drafting Views or Legend Views so they can be reused on more than one sheet for example. Drafting Views are easier to pass along to other projects than Legend Views however.


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braicodavid
als Antwort auf: SteveKStafford

Thank you Steve for your answer. it cleared up a lot for me. 

I have attached the image of what I was supposed to attach to the original post.

I think i will forget about the keynotes for now. I was just hoping to attach a tag or number or code to a family (whether it was a certain door or object or beam) My idea was to just label each family (edit the keynote value) and include that in my schedule where I could then just create leaders of the family in view. I will go through your answer again and check out the link before getting ahead of myself.

 

On a side note, the attached image shows the orientation of the beams (the cross sections to the side of the dimension line). just wondering if there's a way to do this as well? 

 

Thanks for your help,

David

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SteveKStafford
als Antwort auf: braicodavid

Sorry the attached image just confused me more. You wrote about dimensions, which I took to mean dimension strings as in the annotation such as dimension lines, values, tick marks etc. Your image is of a schedule and it's sorting grouping tab. Are you referring to the format of the dimension information in a schedule?

 

As for a cross section of the framing...are you asking if you can include a cross section in the schedule? A schedule can include an image for each kind of item listed in a row so it is possible but the sorting/grouping criteria could cut it out of the schedule if the grouping resulted in different types being collapsed into a single row.

 

The Keynote parameter of elements is related to an external TXT file (simplistic database) so entering a value in that parameter expects you to reference an external file. That file ensures the same value is report for all elements that are assigned to the same keynote...consistency. It sounds like you might be looking for a Type Mark so you can call out a kind of element the same way...such as BM1 = 32"x48" beam size and BM2 = 36"x60" beam size...etc.

 

In contrast the Mark parameter is meant to provide a unique value like a number, say BM1 and BM2 are different sizes or or kinds of framing but you just want to call them out incrementally, 1-20 for example.

 

A tag can have a label associated with any available parameter like Mark or Type Mark. The values they show depend on how you enter the information into the elements themselves. So a beam can have a Mark of B1 and a Type Mark value of BM01 and another Beam can be B1 (Mark) but have the same Type Mark value of BM01 because they are the same type of framing exactly.


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