I am at a basic level with Revit, my usual tool is Autocad. I typically model bespoke steel structures, with all cleats, fixings, pins, extrusions etc, and I then produce fabrication drawings for all the individual parts. Rolled chs's, spigot joins, twin cleats and end caps etc.
I am looking for some expert advice on whether Revit is at all appropriate for this kind of project. So far I haven't worked out how it might be done.
Any clues or pointers would be much appreciated!
Take a look here:
http://blogs.autodesk.com/bim-and-beam/2018/04/11/whats-new-in-revit-2019-structure/
For the manufacturing side, I would normally recommend Advance Steel, Inventor, or similar programs. Revit may be a little top-down/high-concept for your needs, although you might find it useful for that on larger projects.
Are you producing shop drawings? Or Structural Engineering Details?
Pretty big differences in those two distinct capacities/roles/end-games.
Which could affect your choice of software.
Thanks for the responses. They're all useful.
I get involved in a range of projects but they are nearly always architectural & structural steel, eg awnings and other architectural features. Rarely is anything in a regular grid pattern, or orthogonal, or symmetrical, and typically it's all "on show", not boxed in. So I could be working with SE's to develop elaborate connection details, that are then incorporated into drawings for approval. Or I might take SE's 2d details to develop a full 3d model. Or the end purpose could be full fabrication drawings, showing welds, plate profiles, pins, hole fixing spacings, nuts and bolt schedules.
For the last 20 years I've done this all with Autocad, using lots of blocks, and solproffing to generate fabrication details for individual parts (eg brackets, struts, columns). Autocad drawings are of course pretty much acceptable by all.
I'm trying to get a feel for whether Revit can offer the same/similar capabilities. Certainly by trawling YT for tutorial videos I get the feeling that it's not really suited to this sort of work, but I'm not too sure.
If Revit can provide a quicker (after the long learning curve) way to do the same sort of stuff, I'd love some pointers on the correct "workflow". I've followed lots of tutorials, but since they typically revolve around walls, windows doors and roofs, I'm still struggling with how to develop a bespoke steel structure.
I'll be moving onto Revit 2019 soon, but at the moment, I'm stuck on 2018. The new detailing features in 2019 look good, but still may be a little too "industrial" for my normal requirements.
Lastly, I want to learn Revit anyway, to add to my skills range, but I'm not sure that I want to try to learn Advance Steel and whether this would be better than Autocad in the long run.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts or advice.
Advance Steel is a vertical of AutoCAD so you can use a *lot* of the same tools and techniques (not to mention, any block libraries you have). It still has a lot of teething problems, and is primarily for "standard" structural steel work.
I would strongly suggest looking at Inventor. It would be the logical next step up from your description of a vanilla AutoCAD workflow. Keep learning Revit, as chances are you'll need to interact with users of that at some point. It can be a bit of a chore but Inventor content can be pushed over to Revit, so clients can use your designs in their actual design models (provided they aren't too complex).
Ok thanks for your thoughts. I've had a look at some inventor overviews, but it doesn't really seem the right thing for the architectural structures I get involved in as there are no "mechanical" parts I need to detail.
Advance Steel may offer some good features, but it'll take some time to understand it's limitations in terms of what I want to do (eg collaborating with others that may be using Autocad or Revit)
Others have said that Revit is not for modelling everything, partly because the file size would get huge. My models generally only contain plates, extruded steel sections, fixings, etc. I wouldn't have thought Revit would find that too taxing.
It's also about producing fabrication drawings for the parts (eg strut, column,) and whether that's possible in Revit, or whether I'd then need to export to Autocad for the fabrication details.
Guess I'll struggle on with Revit and see if I can work it out.
Thanks to all.
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