Revit 2025 Toposolid fails to add points and crashes

Revit 2025 Toposolid fails to add points and crashes

BrettTN9JM
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Revit 2025 Toposolid fails to add points and crashes

BrettTN9JM
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I've had trouble adding points in the new and "improved" toposolids. When adding points in various places, it barely attempts and then Crashes. Has anyone else ran into this issue? 

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alistair
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I'm having this issue also, can't seem to find a solution. Very frustrating, can't get any work done.

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marcus_wake
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Yeah I've got the same problem. Not even trying to do anything complicated either.

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jessy.shao
Autodesk
Autodesk

Hi @marcus_wake@BrettTN9JM, and @alistair 

 

Our team is investigating this problem and would like to know if you can send the files so we can investigate further. Please share your file and reproducing steps to jessy.shao@autodesk.com

 

Your files will only be used for internal development purposes.

 

Thanks for your support! 

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davidSZT6D
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Hi @jessy.shao - Is there any update on this issue? When trying to add points to modify a toposolid, it causes my model to hang-up, and eventually I get a popup that Revit is Not Responding and I have to close, and lose work. The only solution has been to save literally after placing each new point so that if it crashes, I can reopen without losing more work. Extremely slow workflow rendering it practically useless. My toposolid is a relatively large area, but the file size is not that large, and I'm using links for the architecture to minimize file toposolid file size and complexity.

 

Thank you.

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JennywKUKLM
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Explorer

Same thing here. I'm pulling my hair out. I'm nearly bald at this point. I've lost hours of work, and most of my sanity because I needed to make a slight change in the toposolid

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BrettTN9JM
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Hi everyone, 

 

This is still an on-going issue, and it seems they haven't put much effort into solving it over the last year. I've even met with Autodesk consultants to go over it. I asked about disabling excavation calculations because they're rarely used, and they said it's impossible... Their recommendation is to reduce the number of excavations while editing the topo. What I've been doing is trying to do as much site work as possible before even excavating (which obviously can't always be the solution).

 

Another work-around I've seen is to delete any points that are touching or going through excavation boundaries like a basement or main level floor. 

 

Hope this helps...

 

 

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davidSZT6D
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The only work around I've found is to reduce the total size/area of the toposolid element which is being edited. This is not ideal, but in my case the full site toposolid which was about 50 acres now only serves as the background existing topo surface, but I don't modify this one. This site is separated by a winding road, so I asked the civil engineer crop the topography cad file down the centerline of the road into groups of 4-5 typical residential lots at a time. I then generated a toposolid of each smaller area overlaid on the full site 'existing' topo.

 

I now only modify the points of the smaller toposolid elements, rather than modifying the element which makes up the entire site. When modifying points of the smaller toposolid elements, it has so far stopped crashing and freezing so it would seem that revit is just not able to handle the calculations of changing a larger component with so many points. The reason I went this route vs the 'simplify toposolid' to reduce total points is that I had already tried reducing the points 3-4 times, but it never worked without crashing during modifications, and was getting to the point that it was so simplified that the nuance of the site was being lost.

 

If you can break up your overall site into smaller chunks before modifying those piece, that has at least helped me continue to work. This is definitely not an ideal solution, but it may be a temporary work around until the tool is redesigned in a way that doesn't crash the program. 

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BrettTN9JM
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Explorer

Thats a good method too! It's just too bad we have to have our surveyors or engineers manipulate their CAD files, so they work better for us on our end... You'd think there would be an easier way. Thanks for sharing. 

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atb
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Explorer

The solution is not impossible and it is not difficult. Bring back Topo surfaces either as a secondary option or to fully replace topo solids until they figure it out.  I need contours NOT cut and fill calculations.  My irritation is not with you Brett, I've just spent the last 4 days inching my way through basic topo edits and A LOT of lost work due to Revit clearly trying to calculate the CUT/Fill even though the calculation option is unchecked. By end of week, i'll export to CAD and just create a hacked together hybrid for 2D Plans & Elevations. When showing the Client the 3D model; I'll just tell explain the program is bad.

 

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