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Revit 2021 Phase Filter - New Construction

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rdw
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Revit 2021 Phase Filter - New Construction

I am simply trying to add a solid black fill filter to the new construction walls but can not seem to get this to work. I must be missing something.  When i adding a cut pattern to the existing walls it works without a problem, I do the same thing for new walls and no matter what i do i can not get that pattern to show up in the walls.  I do not want achieve the solid fill by changing my detail view to coarse.  I should be able to manipulate the same way i do the existing phase. Can someone please help? What step am i missing? No matter what i change in the phasing graphic overrides for new construction nothing will change. There is zero reaction to new walls.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rdw

Why don't you do it through a Rule-Based Project Filter?  

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rdw

PF2.png

 

PF1.png

PF3.png

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rdw
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als Antwort auf: barthbradley

I don't believe I should need to do it that way. If you can modify the existing walls through the phase filter why can't you do the same with the new walls??
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rdw
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als Antwort auf: barthbradley

That seems a bit unnecessary.  If you arecapable of changing existing walls with the phasing filter graphics override function you should be able to do the same with the new walls? 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rdw

I'm not following you?  Walls aren't "modified" through the phase filter.  Can you elaborate?  .  

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rdw


@rdw wrote:

That seems a bit unnecessary.  If you arecapable of changing existing walls with the phasing filter graphics override function you should be able to do the same with the new walls? 


 

Yah, I'm still lost.  Can you walk me through those steps?  

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lucdoucet_msdl
als Antwort auf: rdw

@rdw 

 I should be able to manipulate the same way i do the existing phase.
No matter what i change in the phasing graphic overrides for new construction nothing will change. There is zero reaction to new walls.

If it is important that the phase be the reason a wall is filled, as it can be in an existing phase view, all families will be filled, not just the walls.

 

For the new construction elements to be filled in a view, three things are required:

 

1. The elements are set to the current phase  (elements are new in the current view set to "New construction" in example);

NewElementViewNew.png

 

 

2. The phase filter is set to "Replace" for new elements and (see Manage|Phases| 

 

NewElementReplacementFill.png

 

 

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3. The phase graphic override for new elements has projection and cut remplacement fills (See New Replaced in example)

NewReplaced.png

 

If only walls or a subset of revit families are to be filled, I would agree with @barthbradley  that a filter operating on some common parameter with a filter graphic override in the view would be better.

 

Hope this helps

 

-luc

 

 

 

 

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

What's your View's Phase and Phase Filter set to?  What's the Phase Filters and Graphic Overrides set to?  Maybe some screenshots would help.   

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rdw
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als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Please see attached photos. We would like the new construction to have a solid fill pattern without having to change the detail level to coarse or any of that. We should be able to manipulate this phase exactly as we did the existing phase.
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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rdw
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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rdw

No photos. 

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rdw
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als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Thank you
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rdw
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als Antwort auf: rdw

Standard out of the box phasing-Out of the Box Phasing.JPG

What we were trying to accomplish.PMSA Phasing.JPG

 

I appreciate all the help but i have figured it out thanks to lucdoucet_msdl 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

I'm amazed that you are doing this through Phase Filters and not Ruled-Based Filters. It's overly complicated. Too many variables come into play.  You'll see what I mean as you go forward. 

 

Have a good day.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rdw

...are you aware this applies to much more than just walls?  

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lucdoucet_msdl
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

@barthbradley 

 

Here's a Real World Case Scenario: Presentation drawings.

 

Everything cut is new and filled white.

 

lucdoucet_msdl_0-1598049731222.png

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: lucdoucet_msdl

Not sure what you are pointing out to me, but the picture kind of reminds me of a blueprint we did 30 years ago.   

 

 

Hank Center Tower?  Are you Morphosis? 

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rdw
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als Antwort auf: lucdoucet_msdl

  • 100% presentation is the scenario here. Thank you for understanding and helping.
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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rdw


@rdw wrote:
  • 100% presentation is the scenario here. Thank you for understanding

 

 

Yah...that's pretty much what you "do" with Revit.  

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