I use ref planes allot particularly in projects with several phases at conceptual design stage to give some control modelling in plan. I have tried setting up a name based filter rule but the system parameters in RP's (4) dont appear in the Filter by drop down (just Workset or "more parameters".
I can make this work by defining a Workset for RP visibilty (and this needs Worksharing enabling which is not a problem as all my projects now are central model in Dropbox). This works well in view templates of manual VG control.
To define a parameter by More Parameters under Filter Rules doesnt work becuase as far as I know, you cannot add new parameters to reference planes and there is no available category to assign a ref plane to.
Anyone else encountered or got round this with the simple objective making reference planes dissapear by a category or name prefix with a simple on off check box (either view template or VG)?
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I understand that in Revit 2017 reference planes appear on the list of available categories that can be filtered, and that the Name parameter is included in the list of parameters. Therefore, we should be able to apply a filter for reference planes whose name "begins with" or "contains" a string of characters in the Name parameter. No? (I don't have 2017 here available for testing, so I am making an assumption).
If you have Revit 2016, there is the alternative method of creating a view filter by selection. which allows you to select specific reference planes and them turn them on or off, or make them display in different colors.
Een better, there is also the option and standard, of making a workset for special named reference planes, and applying a rule for the BIM users. Any reference plane that is not named, and is not not in that special workset, shall be deleted every Monday. ![]()
You are right they appear as a category. This only gives the option to set a filter rule by Workset. More parameters doesnt go anywhere as Revit OpEd post. Its looking like it cant be done by name alone. Thanks all.
Ah, Ok, I just went back to Steve Stafford's post, and I looked again (with zoom) to the Filter dialog box, and no, the Name parameter is not available for filtering.
How about the other option mentioned above, filter by selection?
@Anonymous,
I wanted to let you know, that I have forwarded your concerns to the Autodesk Product Design and Development Team and asked for an improvement for a future release.
At the moment the suggestions discussed above are available only.
Please, don´t forget to mark one of the posts as an accepted solution in order to let other people find an answer to this question as easy as possible. I understand thought this needs to be improved in order to let you achieve what you were aiming for in Revit.
I thank you for reporting this.
I appreciate your patience, while we are working on an enhancement.
Regards,
The reason I havent marked any of the posts as a solution is that no one is able to offer a solution as there isnt one (yet) and not even Alfredo sort this one!. I have put my workaround on my Revit Blog though. This is setting RPs on Worksets which can then be controlled with a visibility filter. I do appreciate that you have picked up on this as an issue for addressing in a future release. Thank you.
@Anonymous
Thanks for your reply. I understand, you were only able to find a workaround, which you didn´t find as an optimal solution.
I agree with you.
However, for helping other users to find an answer more quickly, and get even more value out of this very informative discussion:
Do you agree with marking both your posted workaround and my post stating that Autodesk has been informed about the need of a product enhancement as Accepted Solution for now?
Thanks again for being active in the community.
I noticed that this was brought to Autodesk's attention nearly 7 years ago, and it appears we still don't have a resolution from them. Are they actually planning on addressing this?
Any changes regarding this topic? except ref. planes can be filtered via workset!? so it's 8 years ago and counting @prestondukes ....
This would be extremely helpful, I am amazed this hasn't been integrated into newer releases.
I do not think there is a single Revit user who does not feel the same.
This is surely easy to add considering the miraculous things Revit can do.
@prestondukes wrote:I noticed that this was brought to Autodesk's attention nearly 7 years ago, and it appears we still don't have a resolution from them. Are they actually planning on addressing this?
Who knows but using subcategories will allow you to control visibility by sub-category.
That's currently what I do for my own projects; however, I usually have the architect's file linked in, and they're not using this practice.
That's a different topic. The OPs first statement eliminates them.
Why are you showing the architectural reference planes at all?
My suggestion bypasses the filter issue. Links were never a part of the discussion.
I'm going to disagree with you. The concern is filtering reference planes. It doesn't matter if it's in a linked file or not.
I've come across some scenarios where it's helpful to know where certain architectural reference planes are and that it's more stable to snap/dimension off of that plane that it is to snap/dimension from a surface.
There are also other scenarios where it would be beneficial to filter reference planes in my project alone. It would cut down on the number of view templates required to deal with different types of reference plane subcategories.
It does matter because you've got zero control over other people's workflows. Links were never a part of this discussion because of that limitation. It simply cannot be.
If your workflows are dependent on others, you need to talk to them to find a solution that works for both of you. I discourage relying on such things. It usually makes thing difficult and can actually break models. The solution for links lies elsewhere, not in this topic.
Good luck with that one.
My issue is with filtering. I would love to be able to filter by name whether it's in my file or a linked file. It would be useful for multiple situations. Linked files are just one. You can filter in linked files, so it doesn't really matter if they were mentioned or not.
I don't think there's really any use in continuing this discussion because all I'm asking for is the ability to filter reference planes by name. It really shouldn't matter to you as to why.
Filters don't' work for anything but worksets for reference plains. That has been established. Too late for any more discussion on that. It's just the way it is, until Autodesk adds a new feature. I was suggesting an alternative to filters.
If you wanted to talk about links, you should have said so or started a new topic.
They said they were working on it in the thread, and they clearly haven't addressed it after 7 years. You chose to respond to me, but you didn't need to.
I wanted to discuss filtering reference planes. You can filter items in linked files, so reference planes shouldn't be any different. I would also like to be able to filter my own reference planes, but you seem to solely be stuck on the linked planes. It's just one example of where filtering would be useful. I can name several others,, but it's really fruitless because Autodesk doesn't really seem to be serious about doing this.
Look, I gave you a possible solution but you brought up additional needs beyond the scope of this discussion. Looking for new features in this forum is also fruitless. We can only work with what we got. If that isn't good enough for your needs, there is nothing we can do until the new features are released. You're simply asking about functionality that doesn't exist.
Try the IDEAS forum.
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