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Railing in trapezoid wall opening

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Anonymous
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Railing in trapezoid wall opening

Hi,

 

How to fit railing to trapezoid wall opening? Pls help.

 

Thanks!

 

railing.jpg

 

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FGPerraudin
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Hi @Anonymous,

 

Sadly I think the only solution is to model in place...

Railings do not interact with void geometry or walls... (no junction, add, cut, etc...)

 

Just cheat and make it go through you wall, and do not do a section in it!..

Or go the hard way and model in place!

 

In which case, first tab-select the handrail in order to extend it (tab select, then in contextual ribbon edit trajectory, and ke it go to the sloped wall)

and then model the balusters...

 

Sorry.

 

François



Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
BIM management and coaching

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FGPerraudin
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Ok, I might have found another solution for you...

 

Here is the idea. You need an object to act as a host for your balusters to consider different heights. 

 

Here is a link towards a related article:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles...

 

Revit 2017 is supposed to be able to handle walls as hosts for railings:

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2017/ENU/?guid=GUID-903056FB-76AE-4761-B027-7D1B5CCFD337

 

So I guess that you should be able to use the face of your wall as a host for your railing, in which case you should be anble to make it adapt by itself!

 

I will give it a go and then tell you.

 

François



Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
BIM management and coaching

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FGPerraudin
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Hi @Anonymous,

 

Took me three posts but found the solution to your problem.

 

You CAN use a wall as a host for your railing, but you will need to cut your wall in different pieces so that the hosting faces are at the top of the wall. (you pick a wall and not faces for hosting).

 

I have attached illustations.

 

  1. Start drawing you railing, and at the top use the "pick new host button to pick your wall.
  2. Draw the trajectory of your railing using the pick lines tool,
  3. In your railing structure, check that your balusters are attched to your host at the bottom (wall) and your handrail at the top.
  4. select the trajectory, and set it to Flat (it will force your handrail to stay flat, then set its height to the desired one (use Custom if required)!

There it is!

Done!



Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
BIM management and coaching

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: FGPerraudin

Hi FGPerraudin, 

 

I can't get the it right, pls see railing top and balustrate detached. Pls adise what went wrong.

Are you able to show a video of how you did it. Hoped its not too trouble.

Thanks!

 

Railing.jpgRailing2.jpgRailing1.jpg

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

I think you forget step 4 in his instruction.
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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

That's what happened when I checked "flat"....something is amiss...Pls help

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FGPerraudin
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Hi @Anonymous,

 

Sorry for the delay, French hours...

 

It looks like your balusters are not attached to your top handrail...

 

I am going to make a quick screencast, and send it!

 

In the meantime, can you check two possibilities:

  1. change the baluster type (as that one might not adapt)
  2. check that your rail1 IS your top rail?
  3. Change your rail from the railing properties to a TOP RAIL in the main properties of the railing, and re-attach the blusters?

François

 



Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
BIM management and coaching

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FGPerraudin
als Antwort auf: FGPerraudin

Here is the screencast,

 

Hope it will help...

 

Is it me or have you got less options in you railing property panel?

 

François

 



Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
BIM management and coaching

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: FGPerraudin

Thank you very much!

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: FGPerraudin

One more question - why did my railing turned red after I adjusted the length?

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FGPerraudin
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

turn red...?



Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
BIM management and coaching

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: FGPerraudin

Railing.jpg

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FGPerraudin
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

... Absolutely no idea why!

 

any filter having been triggered by the change?



Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
BIM management and coaching

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: FGPerraudin

not that I know of.... when I drag length of railing nearer the slanted wall, it turned red but when I drag further away, normal normal colour black.

Also, height of railing varies along the slanted wall portion

 

Waiting for video upload to show you

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: FGPerraudin

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: FGPerraudin

Pls watch

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FGPerraudin
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

No idea...

 

As there is a warning, may you have a plugin that highlights them?



Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
BIM management and coaching

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

I think there needs to be a bit of geometry involved to get the railing showing up correctly.  Firstly, the top rail height is not calculated from flat base, nor the peak, but the middle elevation point.  So you may need to lay it out on an elevation with reference plane to determine where to end the sketch line.  Then create a new railing style with a different top rail height than the standard one.  See below, a 1'-6" height railing become 3'-0" when placed on the trapezoid host:

 

Capture.PNG

 

Secondly, you may experience balusters poking up the the top end.  So, edit this railing type and either remove the end baluster, or adjust the offset distance.

 

Capture1.PNG

 

 

 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Hi Toan,

 

Yes, height of railing needs to be locked. Kindly shoe video of how you place reference plane to contrain height of railing.

 

Thanks a lot!

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