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Railing - Can rails extend to floor-mounted Top Rail?

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Redrunner92
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Railing - Can rails extend to floor-mounted Top Rail?

I want to make a railing in which, at the base, the top rail curves down to the floor, and the rails in the "body" of the railing meet the top rail. The railing will be hosted by a stair. It would look something like this, where the grey is the rails in the body, the blue is the top rail, and the green is the handrail:

 

Redrunner262_0-1605811517120.png

The handrail will be on a separate plane, similar to the near railing shown in this photo:

Redrunner262_1-1605811605588.png

 

I have tried editing the top and handrail types, and have edited the paths of the main railing, the top rail and the handrail, and have gotten close; the one part I'm unsure how to do is extend the rails to meet the top rail as the latter turns down to meet the floor. Here is the closest I have gotten, by simply ending the top rail where the End Post is located, shown in the red circle:

 

Redrunner262_3-1605812219914.png

 

 

I have tried several approaches. If I edit the path of the top rail to try to make it curve down toward the floor, Revit will not make the filleted curve. If I edit the sketch of the main railing to push it up the stair just a few inches, the rails in the main body only reach the end of this sketch and do not reach the edited path of the top rail.

Is there a way to create this curve and have the rails contact the downward-turned top rail?

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Redrunner92

Have you tried messing with these Top Rail settings?

 

Ext TR.jpg

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Redrunner92

Or maybe this way?  With Edit Rail: 

 

ext TR2.jpg

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Redrunner92

Is this what you want?

 

ext TR3.jpg

 

Edit Rail. 

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martijn_pater
als Antwort auf: Redrunner92

Edit railing(s) indeed. You could use multiple railings as to make the fillet on the toprail without the lower one protruding, by having a slightly shorter sketchline...

Edit railings, fillet join, multiple railings.Edit railings, fillet join, multiple railings.

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Redrunner92
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Yes, I have tried fiddling with all the properties in the Railing, Top Rail and Handrail types. No variations I found produced what I'm looking for.

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Redrunner92
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

So close! This is what I came up with in several attempts before I made the original post, but it isn't the design I'm trying to achieve. See my colored sketch in the original post: there is no extension of the railing where the horizontal rails are absent.

Said another way, here is what I'm looking for (refer to the image below): the part where I squiggled-out in red would not be present and the bend toward the floor would occur where I show with the blue arrow and the blue curve.

Redrunner262_0-1605836851220.png

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Redrunner92

What's the radius of the fillet? That's the exact distance the rail sketch line needs to be pulled back. Get it? Would a  screenshot help? 

 

 

 

 

 

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Redrunner92
als Antwort auf: martijn_pater

Your image indeed shows what the photo shows, but that is not what I'm desiring. The photo I posted is simply meant to display how the handrail and guardrail are on two different planes.

Using two different railings is a good point though. I may look into that, as much as it is not my preferred method.

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Redrunner92
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

The radius is 3 inches. That said, I'm not sure if you mean the Railing sketch or the Top Rail sketch when you mention "pulling a line back". I cannot reduce the Top Rail length beyond its starting point, otherwise that would work well (see image below). And if you mean the Railing sketch, that pulls the horizontal rails back with it, and the problem in the previous sentence applies again.

A screenshot may provide clarity if neither of those points address what you mean.

The light blue sketch line cannot be edited nor reduced.The light blue sketch line cannot be edited nor reduced.

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Redrunner92

I think I understand the challenge. What about just continuing the Top Rail to the Tread (via Edit Rail) and forgetting about the Start/End post?  Looks good here. What do you think?  

 

Rail Mystery.jpg

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martijn_pater
als Antwort auf: Redrunner92


@Redrunner92 wrote:

...the Railing sketch [..] when [..] "pulling a line back". I cannot reduce the Top Rail length beyond its starting point [. Adjusting] the Railing sketch, that pulls the horizontal rails back with it [..]

That's why I suggested using a second railing (red) with the Railing sketch pulled back to the middle of the edited Top rail profile going downward.  But @barthbradley seems to have done something slightly different, so if you can do it with one railing that might be preferable...

 

Second railing with adjusted Railing sketchSecond railing with adjusted Railing sketch

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Redrunner92
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Good call. That will work!

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Redrunner92
als Antwort auf: martijn_pater

Visually that works but I try to avoid using two elements when one will suffice.

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martijn_pater
als Antwort auf: Redrunner92

I guess it depends on the profile radii? So, making the top rail profile larger and rails smaller not having them protrude... otherwise I don't really think it's an issue working with multiple railings if nescessary btw, but I suppose less is more.

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