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Purlins on curved beams

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Anonymous
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Purlins on curved beams

This is first attempt so far to draw purlins on curved beam and need some help

 

ref plane cant be curved so how can we set planes for purlins to follow curved path ?

 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Curved grids?  Reference lines?

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

No Luck so Far

In my section view

no option for curved grids, neither I can pick line to draw curved grids

In my Work plane pallet on ribbon no option of drawing ref lines

 

 

 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Used face base family. It worked

Still not sure how I can use grids and ref lines to achieve this

Any input will greatly appreciated. Always good to know more than one way to achieve the desired results 

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chrisplyler
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

I've never tried this...but I'm curious what happens when you use the Beam System tool and select the curved beams as the supports?

 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

@Anonymous

I realized now the beams are curved on elevation, not plan, so obviously curved grid lines don't work. Sorry.
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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

See the screencast.  Is it what you want?

 

2017.PNG

 

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johk02
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Hi,

That loks good - but how do you make sure the mambers are perpendicular to the curved surface - like purlins have to be?

Thanks

JH

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: johk02

Create one perpendicular to the curve and do a radial array.  Or draw radiating rays to align the purlins with.

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Alfredo_Medina
als Antwort auf: johk02

If the curve is another kind of curve, not just one single arc with radius, then you can't use array. You need to use a divided path and a repetition. Something similar to this roof by Antoni Gaudi, built more than a hundred ago in Barcelona, Spain:

 

2018-03-11_9-59-07.jpg

 

 

 

If you want to read the story, follow this link to my blog: 

http://planta1.com/blog/antoni-gaudi-s-ingenious-curves-made-a-temporary-building-last-more-than-100...


Alfredo Medina _________________________________________________________________ ______
Licensed Architect (Florida) | Freelance Instructor | Profile on Linkedin
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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Alfredo_Medina

Using adaptive families would be the easiest way if OP didn't need to stick with the Structural frame.  Hence the workaround. 

 

p/s: By the way, the picture in your post shows all purlins perpendicular to the floor, not the curvature of the roof.

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Alfredo_Medina
als Antwort auf: ToanDN


@ToanDN wrote:

Using adaptive families would be the easiest way if OP didn't need to stick with the Structural frame.  Hence the workaround. 

 

p/s: By the way, the picture in your post shows all purlins perpendicular to the floor, not the curvature of the roof.


Yes, in that case the purlins were perpendicular to the top of the roof. That's how I saw them in the photographs of the building:

 

2018-03-11_15-33-41.jpg


Alfredo Medina _________________________________________________________________ ______
Licensed Architect (Florida) | Freelance Instructor | Profile on Linkedin
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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Alfredo_Medina

Oh I realized we were talking about different things.  You were talking about the layout of the purlins and I was talking about the plumbness of those.

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johk02
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Hi,

Thanks for the replies.

To clarify my question: I meant the purlins to be perpendicular to the roof sheeting

 

JH

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: johk02

Yes that is also what my understanding.  If you don't have to use structural members then an adaptive family (not set to always vertical) can get what you want.  If you have to use structural members then you have to manually rotate them around their axis if the curvature is not an arc.  

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