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Problem with a section cutting a family (WC assembly)

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Marcus.Isacsson
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Problem with a section cutting a family (WC assembly)

Hi fellas!

We have created a family for different standard bathrooms so that's it easy to change from one standard size to another. But we noticed that they behave weird when used with elevations or sections.

As an example we're seeing the shower when it shouldn't be visible.
Any solution to this?

Bathroom.PNGFamily problem.png

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loboarch
als Antwort auf: Marcus.Isacsson

Is there any part of that shower family's geometry that crosses the projection plane of the section?  If so that might explain it. Because the "plumbing fixtures" category is non cuttable, it will ALWAYS be shown in elevation when it gets cut.  That would make the shower possibly show up like this if there is any geometry from the family that is crossed by the section line.

 

It does not look like it in your images, but maybe something on the floor or ceiling, or something hidden in the view? Just throwing it out as a possibility.



Jeff Hanson
Principal Content Experience Designer
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Marcus.Isacsson
als Antwort auf: loboarch


@loboarch wrote:

Is there any part of that shower family's geometry that crosses the projection plane of the section?  If so that might explain it. Because the "plumbing fixtures" category is non cuttable, it will ALWAYS be shown in elevation when it gets cut.  That would make the shower possibly show up like this if there is any geometry from the family that is crossed by the section line.

 

It does not look like it in your images, but maybe something on the floor or ceiling, or something hidden in the view? Just throwing it out as a possibility.


Thanks! We can't find anything thats getting cut though. Maybe the reference planes? 
Could changing category of the family work better? (generic?)

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loboarch
als Antwort auf: Marcus.Isacsson

Reference planes would not cause it, I don't think. You can try changing the category of the family to generic to see if it give you the results you are after. Generic IS cuttable, so that will at least tell us if my first guess is what is at the root of the problem.

 

Making generic could mess up fixture counts and take offs if you are doing that kind of thing, so it might not be the FINAL solution, but it will help figure out where the problem may lie. And if you are NOT doing fixture counts and take offs, maybe it is ok to leave generic.  The only problem there would be visibility and graphic control might get weird if you are attempting to turn stuff on and off or change colors, etc...



Jeff Hanson
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loboarch
als Antwort auf: loboarch

Wait, I just read a little closer. The whole bathroom layout is the family, right?????  If so, then I think my guess is probably right. Changing to generic in this case is probably the right thing to do.

 

I originally thought each part of the layout was it's own family and the shower was misbehaving. 



Jeff Hanson
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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Marcus.Isacsson

Do you have any floor clearance lines built in the shower family?  Do you have a "master" bathroom family that includes the shower and other fixtures as nested components?

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Marcus.Isacsson
als Antwort auf: ToanDN


@ToanDN wrote:

Do you have any floor clearance lines built in the shower family?  Do you have a "master" bathroom family that includes the shower and other fixtures as nested components?


Yes this is a master bathroom family for different measurements and the visible families are nested.
No clearence lines (other than the one visible on the floor for a wheelchair)

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Marcus.Isacsson


@Marcus.Isacsson wrote:


Yes this is a master bathroom family for different measurements and the visible families are nested.
No clearence lines (other than the one visible on the floor for a wheelchair)


Set all the nested families as "Shared" and see if it helps.

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Marcus.Isacsson
als Antwort auf: loboarch


@loboarch wrote:

 

...Making generic could mess up fixture counts and take offs if you are doing that kind of thing, so it might not be the FINAL solution, but it will help figure out where the problem may lie....


Changing the category from plumbing fixtures to a generic model fixed the problem with sections. Thanks!

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