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Phasing vs pattern

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Anonymous
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Phasing vs pattern

Hi,

Is there a way to show my existing wall with 2 patterns?

Example: I have a blocks wall and I want to show the block pattern and I also want to show that it is existing, so I wanna have a gray shade behind.

Is there any way?
I tried changing the phasing parameters and set some filters...didn't work.

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Revit 2019 (or 2018) and newer introduced 2 pattern (foreground and background) for any elements. You can create existing wall types and make use of them (phase filter must be 'show complete').

If you want to use Show Previous + New phase filter, then you need to overlay two views on sheet, to show two different patterns.
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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Yea...neither of these solution would work here...
But in this post: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/phasing-graphics-and-detail-level/m-p/595844...

They seem to be talking about a phasing/filter solution...but I can't make it work... :verwirrtes_Gesicht:

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

What version of Revit are you using?  

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

2018

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

I don't understand why @ToanDN 's suggestion doesn't work then.  The way I understand it, is that you want the Cut Pattern to look different for Existing.  You should be able to do with Phase Filters and Graphic Overrides with no problem.     

 

 

Oops. My bad.  2018 does not have that ability. 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

You are on 2018 so the 1st one will not work by nature.  The 2nd one should work regardless of versions.

 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Probably, but that would take a lot of time and we can't afford that...
But thank you :leicht_lächelndes_Gesicht:

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Why not duplicate the Material and give one a different shading to use for Existing types?  

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

NewExisting.png

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous


@Anonymous wrote:

Probably, but that would take a lot of time and we can't afford that...
But thank you :leicht_lächelndes_Gesicht:


 

Yes you will have to duplicate the views but you can get it done more quickly than you think with a View Template and Scope Boxes.  

- a scope box to match the view crop of the two views

- a view template to control the graphics of all the secondary views at once

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Because my plans are in hidden lines...that won't work :verwirrtes_Gesicht:

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Just tried it...don't understand how you get a transparent gray...

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Pattycake_Kyle
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Possible dumb work-around... you could layer different patterns on top of each other to achieve something similar. It kinda sucks though cause its deviating from industry standard and causing yourself a whole bunch of headaches with representing materials. So actually forget this idea, but still posting it anyway.

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Hidden, but shaded???

 

How about this workaround:  No shading, different cut patterns and a Wall Legend.  Smiley (zwinkernd)

 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous


@Anonymous wrote:

Just tried it...don't understand how you get a transparent gray...


The  second view (the one showing wall patterns, not phasing pattern) is Wireframe.  I have attached the revit file in that post.

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Oh...

Well I don't want my plans to be Wireframe...it's not looking good at all :verwirrtes_Gesicht:

But I guess I learned something, thank you :leicht_lächelndes_Gesicht:

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Not what we are looking for here in this office, but thanks :zwinkerndes_Gesicht:

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: Pattycake_Kyle

Haha thanks anyway :Gesicht_mit_Zunge:

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous


@Anonymous wrote:

Oh...

Well I don't want my plans to be Wireframe...it's not looking good at all :verwirrtes_Gesicht:

But I guess I learned something, thank you :leicht_lächelndes_Gesicht:


You main view still Hidden.  Only the overlaying view with only walls category turned on to show the patterns is Wireframe.  

 

Example of a working project.

 

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