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[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

I have a family that is made up of nested Structural Framing extrusions. I've placed the family into a project and selected create parts, then create views. The result is that I can see everything as far as the the family in the elevation and plan views but I can't get the individual elements to show in the parts list or schedule. 

I have also tried to create assemblies from the same family (Instead of creating parts) and can't even see the family in the views. I get an option to create a structural framing schedule when creating views in this manner, but still no individual parts of the family. Although if I create a structural framing schedule manually, everything shows up (Second Picture). This would be for the families that are placed in the project that weren't in assemblies. I haven't checked to see if once they are created into assemblies if that effects the Manually created list at all.

The parts were created using the generic models template then saved as Structural Framing. The individual components are all shared. It seems like I read something pertaining to issues with the Structural Framing Category and Assemblies but I can't find anything as I search this time. At this point, everything seems to work as I would expect outside of being able to create schedules.

Create Parts - Parts ListManually Created Structural Framing Schedule

[barthbradley]

Three questions: 1. Are they Shared Families, 2.  Are they using Shared Parameters, 3. What is the Schedule you are using?  

[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

Hi @barthbradley , the nested components are shared. I originally didn't have the host family shared but did share it just to see if that would do anything. It didn't affect anything. I am using just 3 Shared parameters, which were the Lumber Depth, Lumber Width, and Lumber Length Fields. And the schedule(s) that I am using are the ones that are generated when creating parts and assembly views. I've been leaning towards the parts list views and schedules because my family does not show in assemblies. 

[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

I also forgot to mention that my family shows up in the Parts List Schedule with just the family name and type, as a single instance, but no individual components. 

[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

@barthbradley, I was wondering if you might have a suggestion for me here. I just read a thread from a few years ago where you posted a pretty cool exploded model in which you stated that the model itself was a family with nested families. You had the parts numbered and listed in a schedule. I have the same situation but for the life of me cannot get the the schedule to display the individual parts.

In the "006" pic below, I used the shared subcomponents of my family and manually built a wall, created an assembly, and everything worked as I would expect it to. In the "013" pic, this is my family with the same subcomponents, and the only thing that I can get to display in the schedule is "parts". In fact, the only way I can get the elevation to show is to create parts, then create an assembly. The  3rd pic is the result of the families that I have been building over the last few weeks and they work almost as well as I'd expect them to minus the few errors and things that I am still getting. The model only took a few hours to create and is pretty much exactly as it would be framed in the field. I'd very much appreciate your expertise on this subject. The family it obviously what is causing all of my headaches. The assembly created manually worked perfectly.

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[ToanDN]

Why do you need to create parts from the families? Shared parameters from the framing family do not associate to parts. Simply create framing schedule and rename the title to Parts list.

[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

I would rather not create parts from the families actually, but that is the only way that I have been able to get the assemblies to work... as far as being able to view any view in the assembly. If I select my family and go straight to create assembly, everything is blank. No matter what the process, what I really need to accomplish is to have an assembly with a unique name and be able to schedule (identify) the parts that make up that assembly. I have shared all of my sub components, I have 3 shared parameters which are the dimensions of the lumber, and have assigned the "Structural Framing" category to all of my sub components. From everything that I have seen, this is exactly what assemblies are supposed to accomplish, but something is not working right for me. I can create a structural framing shedule, but it dispays everything in the project, instead of just the parts that pertain to the specific wall.

[ToanDN]

Adding nested shared components in a family to an assembly is a pain in the rear. You need to use TAB to select individual components to add them to the assembly.

With that said, if you want to stick to the create parts workflow, then do it to get your assembly views, but create a framing schedule to get the component list and place it on the assembly sheet.

By the way, Assembly tools are good in concept but have a lot of shortcomings in execution.  You could simply select a set of framing, use Temporarry Isolate tool (sunglasses) to isolate elements, apply isolation to View, and you can resemble an Assembly view.

[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

What would be the preferred workflow in this situation? I'm more than willing to do whatever I need to in order to make this work right. A lot of what I have read indicated that sharing subcomponents was for the purpose of scheduling. I have not been able to find anything on the internet that was a definitive procedure for accomplishing what I am trying to accomplish.

[ToanDN]

The workflow for family with shared components has been suggested in my previous reply.
My personal choice if i needed to do what you are doing would be using curtain walls and mullion schedules.

[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

I just read your comment about temporary hide/isolate, I will look further into that. I am also continuing to learn more about curtain walls as well. Another user was kind enough to put together a sample wall for me so I'm trying to explore those options. He also mentioned that there is a bit of a learning curve to that approach as well. I wish Revit were set up to do this a little better, as framing is a major component of home building. I think Revit is an incredible program, but remember being surprised that the walls were just a core. I hope they spend some time on this in the future. Thank you for your insight, I haven't seen any mention about the temporary hide/isolate function to accomplish what I'm trying to do.

[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

More questions about the temporary hide/isolate... after I do that, the rest of the drawing is hidden. How do I do things such as put each individual wall on a sheet, schedule just the parts in that view, and do that to every wall but still have the entire plan visible for a plan view?