What is best way to fit electrical symbols in Revit 2020? This problem apparently have been tackled from 2007 (the oldest post I could find) - and surprisingly there is no solution ever since. I found that there is a program AddIn called MagiCad, which have this "Symbol Organization Tool" - precisely doing what I am looking for. It organizes the symbols automatically that they would not overlap upon each other in different view scales.
Is there a way to do the same thing in Revit 2020 without plugins?
Example (I have assigned parameter offset, that pushes the symbol away from electrical switch, but sometimes the switches tend to be next to each other, and everything becomes a mess:
What is your way of doing these electrical drawings? Maybe you have some clever solution, I am sure other Revit users might find this solution very useful!
When plans fail, refer to elevations.
I've heard of people using tags for the most flexibility.
Adding more parameters to move the symbols around will give you more flexibility.
@RobDraw thank you for reply.
Tags (also very popular solution everywhere) does not work, because Labels don't support image/symbols, only text parameters.
And Offset parameters is a huge pain, when you have many nearby Electrical fixtures (as in picture bellow: 6 sockets next to each other). Then it become that you have to tweak each and everyone of the socket's offset parameter by fixed number, not to mention it has to be done incrementally. So imagine if combination of sockets change, you have to redo all incremental offsets again. Maybe that could be done automatically in Dynamo for example. But doing this every time manually is just insane. It is surprising that Revit doesn't have a decent obvious solution to this problem.
Tell me something I don't know. I used to do hospitals and healthcare. Those headwalls can have a lot of stacked outlets on them.
@vkulikajevas wrote:It is surprising that Revit doesn't have a decent obvious solution to this problem.
I hate it when people say things like this. It's like they've given up before they even start. Graphics is definitely a weak point with Revit. Working with drafting programs has made a lot of people stuck with certain ways of doing things.
This actually is a perfect situation for an elevation. Place the elements and show them where they actually belong. How much simpler does it get? You don't need a tool to automatically place symbols in places where the devices they represent can be quite far away.
@RobDraw I agree with you on the subject, that it is a good idea to combine geometry with a symbol. I just don't understand why it was so difficult to make a movable symbol by placing a movable dot over it: you define the Default place for each one, but in case of need, you just move it via LMB instead of retyping and reiterating the incremental values.
And I agree with you on the subject that you can do the offset way, and stack them. Yes. hell with it, you can even place symbols outside of family and use them as the tag, while controlling the Visibility/Graphics view. But the question is, is it user friendly? How much time it takes to do? And do you actually spend your time usefully? Maybe you could spend that time thinking about design problems, instead of offsetting the symbols and calculating the amounts incremental values for the symbols to be visible. And help you God, if by any given misfortune you'll have to change the scale of the Viewport (not often, but quite imaginable possibility).
Your going to need a magic button.
Why are you ignoring the obvious and easiest solution?
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