Occupancy calc shown in schedule and in tag

[skyeg321]

I know this topic has been beaten to death but I haven't seen a great solution. We are calculating room occupancy in a room schedule by dividing area by the room's occupancy factor. We also want this calculated value to appear in the room tag. I'm not aware that you can create a shared parameter from a calculated parameter so my my current solution (or workaround) is to just have the tag re-calc the occupancy within itself. Doesn't seem like the most elegant solution. How are other people doing this? Is there a plugin we can buy that makes this easy? 

[Duke_W]

I tried to put the Occupant Loaf Factor parameter in the Rooms category, but I can't do that if it is a Type parameter.  The Rooms category only appears if it is an Instance parameter.

I wanted to make types in the tag family corresponding to load factor values, ie Business type = 150, Residential type = 200, etc.  But that isn't possible with an instance parameter, obviously.

[Duke_W]

The project is reading the Shared Parameters file.  That shot was taken from within the project.

Here it is in the project:

[mhiserZFHXS]

It has to be an instance parameter.

Apply your occupancy type and load parameters to rooms as well, and have the tags read them. You can streamline this process by using a Key Schedule to assign loads to certain occupancy types.

[ToanDN]

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@Duke_W wrote:

The project is reading the Shared Parameters file.  That shot was taken from within the project.

Here it is in the project:

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It must be instance parameter assign to Rooms category (tick the box).  Use a key schedule to assign load to the parameters for consistency.  See example below:

[Duke_W]

I recreated the Occ Load Factor as an instance parameter in both the project and the tag family:

Project:

Family:

I will note that when you click on an instance of the tag in the project, there is no place to enter an Occ Load Factor value:

I'm still getting something wrong here, because this is what I get:

I'd like to leave aside the key schedule part for now, unless it is required.  I am on a time budget.

Thanks for everyone's help.

[ToanDN]

Just share your project here I fix it for you.

[mhiserZFHXS]

The rooms have the parameter. Select the room, put in your value, and it will display on the tag. Or you could click on the question mark on the tag, and it will let you type in a value there (assuming you've done everything correctly). But again, it adds that info to the room. Its not stored in the tag.

Tags are meant to display information from the tagged element. This is fundamental to their function. Works the same for doors, equipment, etc. You can add labels with formulas to the tag, but it has to pull info from its host for the variables in the formula.

[barthbradley]

Your problem is that you are using the wrong "Occ Load Factor" Parameter. You have 2 types (in 2 different SP Text Files) - one is an Integer Parameter, and one is a Number Parameter. The Calculated Parameter Formula uses the Number Parameter. That's the one you need to pull into your Project as a Room Instance Parameter.  

[jmollyhorn]

I want to add Pipe Size + Insulation Thickness*2 to get the O.D.  for my Pipe Insulation Tag, but no can't do that..  I get an error improper use of Boolean..

Funny that I can put 1+1,1/1, 1*0  in the formula , yet I can't add two parameters inside a label. That's stupid!

 

[jmollyhorn]

This is so stupid..  Who is in charge of fixing things at Autodesk?

Last time I checked Pipe Size should be unit of Measure/value,, NOT TEXT... ughhh!!

 

[ToanDN]

Because Pipe Size is not a Length parameter, but a text parameter.  You need to use Diameter parameter for the formula instead.

[jmollyhorn]

If you look at the list of choices Diameter is not one of them. Yeah so SOL.  lol

[ToanDN]

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@jmollyhorn wrote:

If you look at the list of choices Diameter is not one of them. Yeah so SOL.  lol

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Really

[jmollyhorn]

Pipe Insulation Tag  The Pipe tag would work, but I already have 4 different pipe tag families loaded with several types, So I was trying to avoid adding to the chaos.

 

 

[Tristan_Harwood]

I had the same thing happen.
I had to swap the Type to Number, and then apply a "Roundup" prefix on the formula. It behaved itself after that.
If you still get a pile of decimals, you can crop it off with the formatting - general in the label type properties.

For some strange coding reason, Integer as a Variable Type throws it to some very strange negative number value.