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Object styles not displaying correctly

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adamiano-axiom
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Object styles not displaying correctly

Hi all,

 

I have been working in Revit for a couple of years, and have never run into this issue.  I'm hoping someone can help.  

 

I am using the same generic model family type in two different files.  I have assigned the objects in the family to a sub-category.  Both files are then linked into a 3rd file.  In the 3rd file, I have an interior elevation view of each linked file set up which cuts through the family.  I am trying to control the lineweight of the cut lines of the subcategory of the generic model family.  when I adjust it, it updates correctly in the interior elevation of one of the links, but not the other.  The views have the same view template assigned to each other, and the links are set up to use the settings in the host view.  Is there something I'm missing?  Has anyone run into this issue before?  I have tried everything - double and triple checked that the subcategory is spelled correctly, that the objects are assigned to the subcategory, everything.  

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: adamiano-axiom

How did you "link" the families (RFA) to the 3rd file (RVT)?  Did you mean "load"?

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adamiano-axiom
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Sorry, the family (rfa) is loaded into each of the first two files (.rvt).  those to files (.rvt) are then linked into a 3rd file (.rvt).  The 3rd file is where I am having issues controlling the subcategory object style.  

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: adamiano-axiom

Are they under the same Phase?

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adamiano-axiom
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Yes.  We do not have phases set up for this project.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: adamiano-axiom

Could be several reasons. Difficult to troubleshoot without having the two rvt's. Can you post them?

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adamiano-axiom
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

I think I've determined why it's happening, but I'm not sure how to fix it.  We use a Generic Model to create our casework in bathrooms/kitchens.  When the interior elevation is placed to cut through the casework in File A, it displays correctly, and the Generic Model subcategory "Casework" that I have set up controls the object styles correctly.  This is not working in File B because there are two of these Generic Models joined together to form a corner condition.  When I delete the second Generic Model, the cut Generic Model is controlled by the subcategory correctly in File B.

 

 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: adamiano-axiom

Change family to Casework category, as it should be.

 

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adamiano-axiom
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Understood, but if it's a casework family it doesn't join around the corners as a generic model does.  I don't understand why the subcategory doesn't control the object style when it's joined to another instance of the same family.  Is this a Revit glitch?

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: adamiano-axiom

Did you look at the pictures and the Revit file I sent? They join just fine.
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adamiano-axiom
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

I did and they join fine because they were originally modeled as generic models.  Switching the family to casework after they've been modeled as a generic family does not affect the way they join, but if you draw this family as a casework family from the beginning, the two casework families do not join. 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: adamiano-axiom

I see what you mean.  If they already joined as Generic models then they can keep joining after converted to Casework.  But new ones cannot.

 

Changing the Cut Line for the parent Generic Models category would work but I guess you do not want that.  Another quick fix is adding a Filter to the Views.

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: adamiano-axiom

@adamiano-axiom: You say: “I don't understand why the subcategory doesn't control the object style when it's joined to another instance of the same family.”

 

I think you’re trying to wrap your brain around a behavior that I’ve posted a lot about in the past. Actually, it ranks in the top ten of my biggest frustrations with Revit.

 

Bottom line: Joined elements share the same line weight and fill pattern.

 

Subcategories don’t work in join conditions. You can labor all you like over creating Subcategories to control family elements’ line weights and patterns, but once that element is joined in the Project, you are going to lose that control. The Parent Category of the first picked object is applied to both objects.

 

@ToanDN is spot on. The solution to this Graphics issue is found through building Templates – not Subcategories. Unfortunately, View Templates are not going to be the end all and be all solution.  You’re going to still have to use the Linework Tool in some of those views, as unfavorable as that is. But, Templates will definitely help lessen a lot of this kind of detail work.

 

Good Luck.

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