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sakar_deepak
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object above cut plane

 Hi,

Attached are images and Revit file 2019. 

This is about the stepped auditorium floor rising from 2nd floor to 3rd floor. Revit shows the full length of stepped flooring on 3rd floor plan; which is okay. 

The problem is that the stepped floor should be visible only half on 2nd floor plan but it shows the full. 

 

I modeled a generic floor based extruded stepped floor family and inserted in project. 

Regards

Deepak Gupta
Architect

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: sakar_deepak

What category the family?

 

Some families are not cuttable and are always shown in projection in views .  

 

 

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2015/EN...

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sakar_deepak
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Generic , floor based.

Yes, i read about cuttable and non cuttable families.

How can one correct this problem ?

I changed it to non cuttable family but then it completely vanishes from second floor. 

How can one show the stepped floor within the second floor walls in plan view ?

Regards

Deepak Gupta
Architect

(...... those, who are answering the problems in community forum here, are great people .....)
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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: sakar_deepak

When the view range cut is below a generic family the family will show as projection.  Raise the cut plane if you want to show half of it. 

 

But should the family not show at all on the 2nd floor?  Only the sloped ceiling should show on the 2nd floor ceiling plan (see pic).

 

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sakar_deepak
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Yeah, it shows partially this way.

But is there any proper way to address this problem, because 

1.  It is not desirable to change the view range just for one object, because it disturb the whole setting.

2. It does not show the way it should show ( can it be made proper graphically by adding some sorts of lines in family ? ) 

 

Regards

Deepak Gupta
Architect

(...... those, who are answering the problems in community forum here, are great people .....)
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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: sakar_deepak


@sakar_deepak wrote:

Yeah, it shows partially this way.

But is there any proper way to address this problem, because 

1.  It is not desirable to change the view range just for one object, because it disturb the whole setting.

2. It does not show the way it should show ( can it be made proper graphically by adding some sorts of lines in family ? ) 

 


1. Create a Plan Region surrounding that object and change its view range.

2. I think it should not show on the lower level.  If you insist to show it, what do you want it to look?

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: sakar_deepak

You know what's interesting? If you edit the extrusion sketch in the family and remove the stepped underside (e.g. extend the base to the floor for the entire monolithic run), the family cuts beautifully in the project.   Go figure.  

 

 

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sakar_deepak
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

1. This sounds better. I will try that.

2. It should look like either way as in attached pic.

Regards

Deepak Gupta
Architect

(...... those, who are answering the problems in community forum here, are great people .....)
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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: sakar_deepak

@sakar_deepak. Sure sounds like you would prefer stair behavior. Why not model it as stairs?  I think that would be the easiest and fastest solution.  Obviously, Revit has a problem with this family.  My testing proves it.  

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: sakar_deepak

If you want to show the dashed lines from the family on the lower level versus the solid lines on the upper level, you would need to create different object styles in the family and use VG to turn them on/off for different levels.  Using a stair is not a bad idea.

 

Sorry for being stubborn but looking at your section I find no reason whatsoever to show the steps or partial of the steps on the lower levels.  Showing them provides no valuable information to the lower level floor plan.  The only thing I would show is the sloped ceiling on the RCP.

 

 

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sakar_deepak
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Thats a good reminder. It can be done by making one model line downwards up to floor lvl. :leicht_lächelndes_Gesicht:

But again, it has the same problem, does not show the way it should show.

Regards

Deepak Gupta
Architect

(...... those, who are answering the problems in community forum here, are great people .....)
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sakar_deepak
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Yeah, i had thought of that too. But i do not know if it is possible to make a cut in stairs for passage ( our floor is cut for passage at lower floor ). Is it possible to cut the stairs by a void extrusion ?

Regards

Deepak Gupta
Architect

(...... those, who are answering the problems in community forum here, are great people .....)
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sakar_deepak
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Good, okay. I will try that.

 

It is structural floor. It is the way we are comfortable with showing here in India. It give an idea when we issue "plans" to others that it is not simple plane floor but a stepped one . 

 

 

 

Regards

Deepak Gupta
Architect

(...... those, who are answering the problems in community forum here, are great people .....)
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sakar_deepak
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Void extrusion does not cut stair geometry. Pic attached.

Regards

Deepak Gupta
Architect

(...... those, who are answering the problems in community forum here, are great people .....)
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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: sakar_deepak

If you use stair you edit the boundary to cut it to shape, or use different runs with different widths.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: sakar_deepak


@sakar_deepak wrote:

Void extrusion does not cut stair geometry. Pic attached.


 

I never suggested it did.  But you could build it as several stair/landings. The only reason I mentioned it, was because it sounded like you wanted a stair-type display in the view (e.g. "above" line work).  Additionally, you could model the extrusion as an in-place component of the Stair Category.  However, I don't think the display would be much different. 

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sakar_deepak
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Yeah, it so basic thing ( which i forgot ). I think it should solve the problem.

Regards

Deepak Gupta
Architect

(...... those, who are answering the problems in community forum here, are great people .....)
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sakar_deepak
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

@barthbradley

@ToanDN

 

Stairs and Plan region looked good solution. But, alas, it didnt work out. Plan region shows the full stairs at lower floor.  See attached pic.

Is there any way to show part of the stairs, not full ?

 

Regards

Deepak Gupta
Architect

(...... those, who are answering the problems in community forum here, are great people .....)
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sakar_deepak
als Antwort auf: sakar_deepak

@barthbradley

@ToanDN

 

Masking solved the problem. 

By the way is there any other way to show part stair ?

 

See the pic for final Revit drg. 

Regards

Deepak Gupta
Architect

(...... those, who are answering the problems in community forum here, are great people .....)
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sakar_deepak
als Antwort auf: sakar_deepak

@barthbradley

@ToanDN

 

Masking was not a good solution because it hid other objects as well.

So, i tried back generic family, extruded model, with plan region. It solves the display problem. Only thing now is that i have to show some steps in hidden line on lower floor. How can i do that ?

Pic attached. Generic model with plan region on lower floor. 

Regards

Deepak Gupta
Architect

(...... those, who are answering the problems in community forum here, are great people .....)

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