Nested family geometry behavior

[Marcelo_santi]

Hello everyone, I'm experiencing a weird behavior on a window family. My need is to get the total weight, and individual list of the profiles that build this window family. To achieve that I have build some nested families that make it possible. When I change the geometry parameters as width and height, everithyng worked just fine, but when I applied a different material the familie presented a strange behavior ruining the geometri. I have tried a lot of thing, as change the Is Reference parametes, building generic models withot using the level reference plane, changing the reference lines and I have no more ideas on what to do. I'm working on Revit 2022 but on revit 2023 it happend the same behavior. 

The number 01  I changed a shared parameter that is Text based.

The number 02 I changed the material.

The number 03 is the reference

and number 04 I changed the dimensions and had no problem.

Thanks in advance to any ideia of solution.

[L.Maas]

Few things you might try. 

You have a family with a shared family and within that shared family you have other shared families.  Try to replace this with a family with a non-shared family with shared families. Or try a family with shared families.

You can also do a little bit of remodelling. Try to use more parameters in the main family (e.g. length, width) to further guide/constrain the nested families.

If this does not work you might to try to start clean. It just might be that the main or some of the nested families are somehow corrupt.

[azad.Nanva]

this is really crowded family with too much unnecessary shared elements.but your problem is not this shared element, your problem is the GM Line Based family, you should use the normal generic model family base.

[Marcelo_santi]

This amount of shared elements is the pupouse of this family. My goal with this is to make a list of the profiles that compose the window. I have the complete window, inside that I have elements that I can use in other families. I will try to create using a normal template of generic model.

[azad.Nanva]

The Shared family is not problem , if you have R2025, I can send back your file.

[Marcelo_santi]

I have it!!

[azad.Nanva]

here you are.😀

[Marcelo_santi]

Just to be sure I understood what you did. You created a new generic model from scratch or you changed the parameter Is Reference from the "profiles" families?

[azad.Nanva · Accepted solution]

Yes i made new model with Generic Model Template Family and your profile , because the old one was the Line Based , now all the element is plane based and the outside is see from Ref. Level.with this metood you can control the reveal size of frame.

I can post a small example here,if you need.

[Marcelo_santi]

That's perfect, thank you very much for the help!

[azad.Nanva]

Any time