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Neglecting Gaps in Room Boundaries

rudolf.vyhnalek
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Neglecting Gaps in Room Boundaries

rudolf.vyhnalek
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Hi,

Revit does one thing which can be considered as correct but the investor thinks otherwise :(. He want's Revit to calculate whole space of the room even if it is a very small part of a space beyond the column for instance as here (green is a room, white neglected space) 

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Does anyone know how to get "correct" area in such cases? We didn't find any setting where a size of a gap can be set.

Thank you

 

Regards,

Rudolf

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chrisplyler
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What happens if you uncheck the Room Bounding property of the column?

constantin.stroescu
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Congratulation Chris!

Excellent answer!

Applied to peripherical columns, solves the problem of graphical representation when using Color Scheme.

As for the Room calculation .....in my opinion it doesn't matter too much. Let me explain myself a little:

I can say that after a long time of doing architectural design and having a close contact with site works where the designed building becomes a real building and looking at the problems that are forwarded on forums I have a sad feeling that somwhere, we are loosing the real life....We are looking for Super Precision. That is not so on worksite. Look at the German design norms and standards ( look at VOB and DIN as they are ,for instance, shown in the Roombook addin) . They do not take in consideration,, in calculation rules, small pieces under a certain value( niches, openings, floor and ceiling spaces like our example between a wall and a column). In my oppinion they are right. Figur yourself how , on sitework, someone will do the finishes of the floor and the sides(wall and column) on that narrow space ( under 5 cm) . More then sure that I'll try to close that space that has no practical use and almost imposible to be finished.....

 

Constantin Stroescu

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rudolf.vyhnalek
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Hi, Thanks for a reply but this is not a solution :-). If such column is not room bounding, than you get very wrong result (not in this case but consider column 500x1000 mm). Room separation lines work the same way. Regards, Rudolf
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rudolf.vyhnalek
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Hi Constantine, There is no need to tell me it is a nonsense. This is a wish of our investor so What čas we do about it? The picture is just an example how it works. We have more serious cases sometimes . What bothers me is that somebody had to create a rule which describes how the boundary will behave in such chases and it had to be quite difficult in comparison to "no rule" solution (space is everywhere). And if there is such rule, user soud be able to set it. There are a lot of such exceptions which are sometimes more like disadvantage. Regards Rudolf
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ToanDN
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If it only for reporting on a schedule, you can uncheck the Room Bounding of the offending columns/walls, draw a string of Room Separation Lines matching the size, and move them to a clear area.Capture.PNG

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rudolf.vyhnalek
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Hi, thanks, we do that like you suggested but still it is extra work 🙂 Thank you Rudolf
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Keith_Wilkinson
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How big a difference in area do you get in the worst case?  Depending on the size of that value my question would be how will your investor ever know?



"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Maimonides
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