Model surface patterns are always halftone

[ryley.g.h]

If you look at the image below, the top portion has a floor where we use a model type pattern, and the bottom floor is using a drafting type pattern. No matter what, we cannot get any floor with a model type pattern to plot black. I have checked the following for any halftone override and they are all clear: View template, override by element/category in the view, phasing, and filters. The pattern colour in the material itself is black, and I've even tried to override the surface pattern colour to black.

Does anyone know why model surface patterns always halftone?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

[Yien_Chao]

can  you share the file?

[RDAOU · Accepted solution]

@ryley.g.h 

If you copy the floor to clipboard and paste in a blank new Model...what do you see? Also halftone? If it is black there then its an override you have missed in your project...Example: Phasing

[syman2000 · Accepted solution]

Revit has a built in engine where as the hatch gets denser, it will display as half-tone or not display them at all. Trying zooming into the model hatch and print to see if you get black outline.

[ryley.g.h]

That's what it is. Is there anyway to disable this? When I tried what @RDAOU suggested it looked fine, but once I changed the scale in the clean project to match my current project, it went halftone as well.

[RDAOU]

@ryley.g.h 

The halftone overrides and the onscreen tone scaling effect are two different things which are not related...

The onscreen grayed out effect is driven by the line weights you are using vs the view scale and the density of the Pattern. This effect is necessary for model patterns due to the fact that Model Patterns do not scale up/down like drafting patterns when you change the view scale ... Disabling that effect will make you plotted views illegible .

The behavior is as follows - Assume a Model cross hatch pattern of 150x150mm which is plottable black at 1:100:

1. At a scale 1:200 it would be Too dense - But still plottable => pattern switch to grey
2. At a scale 1:500 or 1:1000 it will be Too dense - But Not plottable => pattern on screen will switch to solid gray hue but will not be plotted

changing the line weight for different view scales can sometime mitigate the effect but lines can be only that thin where you cannot always set fine enough lines that are suitable for very high scales