material takeoff for a nested family

[arsham]

hi all,

i have a casework family, which within has different casework families, nested into it, these nested families have instance material parameters, that when brought into the host family, they are locked to the type material parameters of the host family, but when i load the host family into my project, and get a material takeoff, only one material shows, out of 6, i dont understand why.... any ideas?

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Just tested it, works for me. Can you share the family? Get rid of geometry if you can't share it, just replace it with dummy extrusions.

[arsham]

SENT

[arsham]

check your inbox please

[barthbradley]

Are the nested families SHARED? They have to be.  

[arsham]

they are shared 

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@barthbradley wrote:

Are the nested families SHARED? They have to be.  

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My first thought too, but then when I tested it I intentionally left nested one as non shared. Material for it was still visible in project in material takeoff. Any idea how and why?

[barthbradley]

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@barthbradley wrote:

Are the nested families SHARED? They have to be.  

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My first thought too, but then when I tested it I intentionally left nested one as non shared. Material for it was still visible in project in material takeoff. Any idea how and why?

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Well, without seeing the file, I can only guess.  Obviously, the schedule isn't reporting anything for that one parameter, so my guess is that the material associated to a different parameter. Do you have similarly named parameters in the list of available parameters - and only one of them is used in the Scheduled Fields? 

Post the File if you want. I'll look at it and tell you exactly what's going on.  

[arsham]

sent to you

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@barthbradley wrote:

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Post the File if you want. I'll look at it and tell you exactly what's going on.  

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Here it is, cylinder is the nested one, not shared. Still material set for it is visible in project.

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@arshamCheck inbox, I think your issue is solved.

[arsham]

please reply it here so i can mark it as solution... thanks

[barthbradley]

I'm not sure what you want to do. If you want to report the material of the nested family, then you need to make it a Shared Family.  If you want the ability to change the material of the nested Family in the Project, you need to Associate the Material Parameter in the Shared, Nested Family to a Material Parameter in the Host/Parent Family. 

 

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@barthbradley wrote:

I'm not sure what you want to do. If you want to report the material of the nested family, then you need to make it a Shared Family. 

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This, this is what I've been thought. But cylinder in my little example is nested - not shared - yet its material is visible and can be scheduled in project.

Why?

[barthbradley]

Because you associated the Nested Family Material Parameter to a Parameter in the Host.  

See...the Nested Family is unaccounted for in Schedule.  

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@barthbradley wrote:

Because you associated the Nested Family Material Parameter to a Parameter in the Host.  

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Oooh, it only pertains to materials that aren't meant to be changed through host family! Got it. Thanks!

Never created such "fixed" families so this never came up as an issue for me, I was just always ticking "shared" without thinking about it too much.

[arsham]

this is the solution thanks to @blank... 

revit is so stupid.... just because the millwork is not setup to show in Fine mode, and i want to show the 2d family of the shop drawing in the Fine mode, it wont get the data!

the freaking family exists it the model, and all the elements, schedules dont have filters for Fine or Coarse mode. fix it ffs....

[barthbradley]

I have no clue who the heck I am responding to in this thread.  The OP is @arsham and @blank... is asking me questions that I'm answering.   What the heck is the problem and what the heck is the solution?  I'm completely lost.  

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@barthbradley wrote:

I have no clue who the heck I am responding to in this thread.  The OP is @arsham and @blank... is asking me questions that I'm answering.   What the heck is the problem and what the heck is the solution?  I'm completely lost.  

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You answered my question, so as far as I'm concerned - solved 😄

[barthbradley]

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You answered my question, so as far as I'm concerned - solved 😄

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Ha! Well good. All is not lost then.  By the way, what was the specific solution you came up with?  I'm guessing it was in that file I opened from you. I thought that was the OP's file for us to inspect.  I see now that it was a contribution by you. Probably the one that solved the crime. he, he.