Material Tag Not Working Over Masking Region

[Anonymous]

I'm trying to assign a material Tag on a family which has an inbuilt Masking Region. So Tag does not recognize the material. Any ideas how to solve this?

[dzanta]

Tag by Material will not work if it is pointing to a Masking Region on a family.  This is by default.

You can try the following:

- Move the Masking Region to a different plane so you can tag the object in the view you want (i.e. plan vs. elev.)

- Delete the Masking Region and make the family simpler in design that does not require a Masking Region

- Modify the Masking Region size such that the node of the leader from the Material Tag (Free End type) can be moved directly onto the object surface and "just missing" the edge of the Masking Region

- Don't use the Masking Region in the family...only use it in the view you need (within the Project)

- If the Visual Style is set to Wireframe...masking region is ignored when using Tag by Material

Hope this helps

[Sahay_R]

Is there a material parameter attached to the fixtures? Does the label in the tag talk to the material parameter? Can you share the tag?

[Sahay_R]

OK - here is what you need to do, @Anonymous. Open the toilet family. Very carefully, delete the masking region AND symbolic lines (I don't know why they do that). Select each piece of geometry and make sure that they are visible in all views.

Reload. The tag will work. Most probably your family has been told to not show geometry in ortho views, and the tag does not see the geometry that the material parameter is applied to.

[barthbradley]

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@dzanta wrote:

Tag by Material will not work if it is pointing to a Masking Region on a family. 

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@dzanta: I can't replicate a condition where this is true. Am I missing something? 

[ToanDN]

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@Anonymous wrote:

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@dzanta wrote:

Tag by Material will not work if it is pointing to a Masking Region on a family. 

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@dzanta: I can't replicate a condition where this is true. Am I missing something? 

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You can have a Masking Region in the family but it cannot obscure the model element entirely so that the material tag can pick the material info from the model element it up.

[barthbradley]

Sorry...still can't replicate. Deleted all geometry in an OOTB family; sketched some large masks in Plan and Elevation; loaded into Project. Tag still reads it. 

[Sahay_R]

When I tried this on an OOTB toilet family, I had to get rid of the Masking Region as well as the Symbolic Lines and make all the geometry visible. The Masking regions and Symbolic lines were  putting the geometry into an impenetrable Fortress Of Solitude, that the tag could not rescue Princess Material from.....

[barthbradley]

Tagged Desk.rfa in Section View...

[ToanDN]

Are you using a Category Tag or a Material Tag?  If there is no geometry in the family, where do you assign the material?

You just answered my question.  We are talking about using Material Tag.

[barthbradley]

"Material Tag"? Oh! I see it now.

@Sahay_R: Yep! Time for new Rx. 

[Anonymous]

Hi all

Thank you for your answers. But I know how to solve it, I can make the model visible in front view and "cheat" by picking an area where the model is exposed.

What I was actually asking is, if there is a way to make Revit pick the material from the Masking Region.

In this project works fine because only a few of objects are masked. In a large project though where I have dozens of projects where the manufacturers are using Masking Regions and hiding the objects in order to make the project model "lighter" I cannot sit and modify every single family.

[ToanDN]

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@Anonymous wrote:

What I was actually asking is, if there is a way to make Revit pick the material from the Masking Region... I cannot sit and modify every single family.

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Masking Regions are detail items and having no materials.  So I predict a lot of sitting time for you.

[barthbradley]

...a side-bar question here: do your plans typically provide elevations that calls out tank material?   

[Sahay_R]

Change the Families. That's the way to go. Don't postpone the inevitable. For the benefit of your future happiness. You don't want to deal with this over and over again.

[Anonymous]

Not really. This one was just an example because it happened to work on this view at the moment.

[Corsten.Au]

Hi

Simply use the Masking region "Profile " and make 3d extusion and assign a material.

( keep it visible in elevation , hide on plan , and delete the masking region )

this should solve it..

In the end one has to make a simpler 3d family, but for the time being

make use of masking region profile..

Cheers!

[Anonymous]

I know this is faux pas in the Revit world, but I had the same issue and the only way I could solve it was with a dummy tag.

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