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Linked view and control by view template

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MuirEng
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Linked view and control by view template

Hello,

What we are trying to do is have our view templates control the appearance of the architectural model (we are the electrical sub consultant) using view templates. Everything is working well except for one issue. It seems that the settings for view templates allow the template to control every aspect of the link, or none.

 

What we are trying to find is a setting that will allow the user to select the WHICH linked view is assocated with each view in the drawing, but the template will control HOW this view is displayed. 

 

The salient control appear to be "view templates, view properties... VG Overrides RVT Links". We have this set to "include."

This setting means the template controls the RVT link display properties including which view is linked.

 

But the architect has annotation details in his floor plan views which we need on our views. This means it is necessary to set the linked view to point to his floor plan view. But the problem is that our first level needs to point to his first level, second to second, and so on.

 

At the moment we have turned off the view template control over RVT links so that we can select the linked view but this is not a great solution, since the idea behind using the view templates is to standardize the look across views, and now the VG settings are uncontrolled by the template.

 

Can anyone suggest a workflow that addresses this concern? Is there a setting we are missing?

 

thanks

 

 

 

Brian Muir, P.Eng, Muir Engineering
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David_W_Koch
als Antwort auf: MuirEng

Are you trying to specify a view in a linked file and then also control what you see of that link and how you see it at the same time?  So far as I know, that is not possible.  You either get the specific view, with annotation, as created in the linked file, or you get just the model, with the opportunity to choose your own visibility graphics settings.


David Koch
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MuirEng
als Antwort auf: David_W_Koch

Hello David,

What we are trying to do is free up selection of the view that is linked, but let the template control how that view is displayed.

 

You can specify which linked view is displayedand how it this displays for sure! You just set the VG properties for Revit Links to custom, set the linked view to the one you want, and set the revit links VG properties.  This can be done within a template and outside control of a template.

Do you think otherwise? If so let me know and I can walk you through how to get this far.

(my experience is that the GUI design is a bit lousy in this part of the software and it is easy to misunderstand the sequence of buttons to push to get into the right settings menu)

 

Let me give you an extreme example of why I think decoupling the selection of the linked view and control of the linked view VG settings is quite important:

 

Suppose we are working on a building with twenty floors, all different floor layouts. So the architect has twenty floor plan views in his model but he is using some annotations on his views. We need twenty electrical views that correspond to each of these floors, and we want those annotations. We really want to use a view template for all these views so that they are consistent, with that view template controlling how the linked view is displayed. No problem, that all works in Revit.

 

But now the snag, we need each our our views (1-20) to display his corresponding view (1-20) as the background or the wrong annotation details show up. And we can't free up that selection per view without turning off the view template control of EVERYTHING related to the Revit link display. 

 

One way to dodge this is to making 20 view templates but that is a pretty messy solution. Another road is turn off this part of the template control, get the view perfect, and then copy that view over and over. But it will be no fun when the architect changes something in his model that leads to us wanting to change the VG settings on all those views!

 

Does this explanation help?

 

I feel like I must be missing something, somebody must have figured out a workaround....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brian Muir, P.Eng, Muir Engineering
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David_W_Koch
als Antwort auf: MuirEng

OK, I see what you are saying.  Yes, if you control the display of Revit links in a view template, and you set a specific view for a given linked model, that view would be used for that link in every host model view that used that view template.  This would be especially unfortunate in a multi-story building.

 

The only way out of that would be to have a separate view template for each unique combination of linked model settings or to exclude the linked model settings from the view template, as you note.  If all of your linked files are set to a view in the linked file, then that should not be too difficult, as you are only making that one setting per link, per view (after choosing By linked view, all other visibility graphics settings are grayed out, except for choosing the specific view).  If, however, you have a mix where some linked views should be controlled by custom settings, rather than by linked view, then you would lose the ability to have those custom settings set once and applied to all views using that view template.

 

One solution may be to set up a view template that only applies to linked files, with the custom settings.  Apply that to your views, and then apply your main view template, that does not apply to linked views.  The settings applied via the first view template, applying only to linked views, should remain unchanged, since the main view template does not have settings that apply to linked views.


David Koch
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jwinklerSB4SV
als Antwort auf: David_W_Koch

I have a 15 story building.  I have a bound view template for all Mechanical Piping plans that does not control the Linked View.  I have also created 15 "per floor" view templates with RVT Linked View info only.  These can be applied without disturbing the bound "Mechanical Piping" view template.  This is the workaround described above........Now another problem:

 

We have a separate Revit file for each discipline.  If I attempt to transfer these "per floor" view templates to another revit file (say Electrical, or Plumbing).  The templates transfer, but the linked view information disappears from the template.

 

We are talking about a typical workflow for any MEP firm that uses a separate Revit files per discipline.  Engineers should not be spending their entire day choosing appropriate background views.  Autodesk really should come up with a solution to this - and not a paid add-on.

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