Line work invisible lines - remove dot

[Anonymous]

I am having trouble getting rid of the dots at intersections of lines I do not want to show in sections.  I can remove the two lines in the section view using the line work tool (invisible lines), but cannot get rid of the dot at the intersection of those lines.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Lance

[DanFaba]

Hey, LLandusky,

When you say dots at intersections, are those done by the crossing of the wall lines?
Do you have any screenshots of the problem we can use as a reference?

[Anonymous]

Thanks for reaching out.  Please find a screenshot attached here.  The footing in this case was modeled higher than it should have been and we were trying to control the lines in section (last second before the job went out) by just hiding lines and drawing them where they should have been.  When we made the main footing lines invisible, the line that was cutting through the screen (so to speak) was causing a dot to appear that we couldn't remove.  Looking back, we could have just moved the footing down and added a new depth of footing to line up with the continuous footing meeting up with it, but we are Revit newbies and didn't know it was that easy at the time.

One workaround that I found was to override the graphics in view for that object, change the projection lines to "Line 1" (thin lines default Revit) and this made the dot disappear.

I know the modeled object is there, but it surprises me that Revit shows this line (or dot since it's perpendicular to the screen) knowing that this is a section cut.  I understand a modeled object such as rebar, steel shape, etc. showing up as a cut section, but the line indicating a footing or other 3D large shape seems like it would have been excluded in section unless the section is cut at an angle to the object.  But even then, I could see how most people wouldn't want to see that line - just the slice of wall they are trying to show in 2D form.

Could we also shrink the depth of the section cut to 0 to solve this maybe?  Perhaps I'll experiment a little in the next few days.

Thanks!

Lance

[DanFaba]

LLandusky,

In this case, you should be able to tab-select to the dot and use the linework tool to turn it off. Or you could try to use a little masking region to cover the dots.

[Anonymous]

Revit will not let me select that dot.  I just tried using the tab key for this sitution and I get the error sound letting me know there is nothing else there to tab through.

[rosskirby]

You won't be able to turn that line invisible.  It's a line in the z-axis (parallel to your view), and you're seeing the end of it.  You might have more luck using the cut profile tool (View tab --> Cut Profile) or join geometry tool (Modify tab --> Join) to get things to show up the way you want.  What exactly is it that you're using the linework tool on?  If you've got a square footing and you want to notch it to create a brick ledge, why not just model it that way?  Are the horizontal/vertical lines that represent the ledge part of the modeled footing, or are they detail lines?

[Anonymous]

Cut profile is a good idea.  We were just crunched for time and "modeling that way" is kind of like telling a person just learning to fly a helicopter....just induce cyclic lateral movement slightly left and only left.  Being a Revit newbie, I would have spent more time trying to adjust the model than to fake it with some simple line control.  I was stuck in the idea of lines after making the transition from AutoCAD.

Hopefully we won't need to do this too much in the future, but it has happened from time to time.  Another condition we had an issue with was the slab edge.  We are currently showing a slab, a slab edge with different profiles and a footing below the slab edge that is continuous for the wall.  All we have figured out so far is to model a wall with a reveal in the bottom 8" so that our wall footing will start 8" down from the slab and also cut in section correctly. I'm all ears for better ways of handling this.  Last minute, we changed a footing width for a wall and didn't make a new slab edge.  To get the section looking correct, I hid the slab edge lines and drew some new ones in their place.  This left the infamous z-axis line coming at me and showing in the form of a dot on screen.

The learning process continues and I definitely feel better about using Revit, its families, and annotations, but it's a huge learning curve.

Thanks!!!

[chrisplyler]

I don't like Revit's built-in Wall Foundation system family for that exact reason. It SHOULD have an offset parameter, but it doesn't. They also SHOULD be profile based like a slab edge is. Oh, I still use them occasionally, but they annoy me.

One possible solution is to just sketch the profiles of your slab edges to include the continuous footing underneath. Another is to use an in-place sweep along either the bottom edge of your exterior walls (sketching the profile 8" lower than the sweep's origin in your case) or along the bottom edge of your slab edges. A third is to just model another slab appropriately, but then it doesn't automatically follow the other items when you make changes unless you manually constrain it.

[Lance.Coffey]

If you just want to hide the dot, you could throw a masking region over it. Although, it would be better to “properly” update the geometry.

Here’s a video showing what this looks like (with a simple model):

[Anonymous]

I faced similar problem, this can be solved in the Object Style, make sure that the "line weight projection" is less or equal to "the line weight cut" of the category in interest.

[kieran.ryanZA4EE]

Hi,

I stumbled across this thread with the same problem. I know it's an old post although I thought I'd share a workaround solution.....

'Right click element --> 'override graphics in view' --> 'by element' --> Projection Lines dropdown --> change colour to white (or whatever matches the background).