I am having a really hard time understanding Levels & how to use them. I of course understand levels physically and in terms of the geometry of a building/site, but mastering & understanding levels in terms of Revit as a modeling software is where I am getting lost. Should levels automatically show up when I jump to views that are physically created in the plan; sections, elevations, details, etc? Should they show up on sheets automatically? How do I make them show up on sheets if they are missing, but VG says they are on? Do I need to place levels on each sheet individually? If I want to be able to place and adjust placement(not height) of levels on a sheet independent of the levels on the view referenced do I copy levels form another view? How do levels work on sheets if they do not show up in the crop window? Levels seem to appear on most of the views I create, but the rhyme & reason is alluding me especially in regards to sheets.
I am ok with adding, creating & editing levels, but in terms of them showing up in certain places & not others I am throughly confused. I think I am missing some macro & micro understanding of using levels in Revit. I really striking out on this in trying to find some resources to understand this better. I am hoping for links to some more information on all of this if anyone has a resource. Any help appreciated.
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Have you read all about levels in the Help documents?
Here´s the link: https://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2023/ENU/?guid=GUID-10A920FD-1A4C-457B-8827-D36AD7EA2D23
Yes, the levels don't necessarily cover the extent of your model. I guess there are times when a building might have different levels on one side than another, but that is rare.
Try going to the default 3 D view, and picking the levels and selecting the level, right click and pick maximize 3D extents. You can also do this in a section view.
You can also drag the ends in section views to make the level cover more area. Try turning off the crop region to find the level first.
Yes, I have looked at all of that. As far as I can find none of it answers my questions it's all an overview of what I already understand. None of it addresses sheets or any of my other confusion that I can find:\
Thanks, but I'm not really confused on any of that. That doesn't address my area of confusion. Creating, placing & editing a level in space isn't my issue. It's more what happens after that. It's all of this that is not addressed in the Revit help sections:
"Should levels automatically show up when I jump to views that are physically created in the plan; sections, elevations, details, etc? Should they show up on sheets automatically? How do I make them show up on sheets if they are missing, but VG says they are on? Do I need to place levels on each sheet individually? If I want to be able to place and adjust placement(not height) of levels on a sheet independent of the levels on the view referenced do I copy levels form another view? How do levels work on sheets if they do not show up in the crop window? Levels seem to appear on most of the views I create, but the rhyme & reason is alluding me especially in regards to sheets."
"Should levels automatically show up when I jump to views that are physically created in the plan; sections, elevations, details, etc? YES in views that cut through them and/or are perpendicular to them
Should they show up on sheets automatically? In Views you place on sheets according to the above
How do I make them show up on sheets if they are missing, but VG says they are on? Views show levels, not sheets so the views themselves must be configured to allow Levels to be visible if they are not.
Do I need to place levels on each sheet individually? NO, sheets hold views that can show levels
If I want to be able to place and adjust placement(not height) of levels on a sheet independent of the levels on the view referenced do I copy levels form another view? One level per story of a building design, you do not copy them to sheets...they appear in views automatically. All elements are built relative to a specific level of a model.
How do levels work on sheets if they do not show up in the crop window? Levels seem to appear on most of the views I create, but the rhyme & reason is alluding me especially in regards to sheets." Sheets hold views that show levels, sheets are a presentation tool, views show levels.
Plan views do not display levels, they are associated with specific levels. If you're designing the second floor of a building you work in plan views associated with Level 2 or Second Floor...whatever name it's been given. All elements added to a plan view associated with level 2 will appear in any other plan view for that level unless users have altered the visibility/graphic settings for that view. For example, a floor plan vs furniture plan vs power plan vs framing plan. All are based on the same level but have a different story to tell.
Elevations and Sections display levels that pass through their cut plan and are within their far clip plane. Levels have "extent" that can be adjusted to show in all views or in some views depending on the scope of the design.
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Thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to answer those specifically, you confirmed a few suspicions I had that I did not have clarity on. Yeah, I understand levels in terms of plans & physically what they are as well as cut lines & far clip offset that part is just drafting really. The way the level function is supposed to behave in Revit is where I was totally lost.
I am still unclear on one thing see images. I am working on a detail & using a tutorial/course to do so, see images. I have posed this question to the instructor as well. In the video/ tutorial am working through the example first file features levels on the sheet that are very much not the same as the levels on the OG view/section. I am trying to get my file to match display the levels on the detail sheet. Levels are not displayed unless I make the crop window much larger which would be very problematic for the detail scope I want to show. The second file shows the OG section & callout, the third file shows the actual active detail & the last file shows the sheet w/annotation VG settings shown. As shown in Levels on there in no template in use.
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Wall Detail Callout
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That is because the 3d extent of your levels is out of the view crop region. Select all levels, right click and maximize 3d extent.
As @ToanDN wrote the 3D extent of the levels is most likely not "wide" enough.
When you examine a Level element after selecting it you'll see an Open Circle grip at each end. This is the 3D Extent grip. When you drag this you increase or decrease the overall scope/extent of the Level. A level also has a 2D Extent which is activated when you click on the 3D grip, it toggles on or off. The 2D extent grip allows you to control how much of the level should be visible in "this" view without altering how it is displayed in other views... "global vs local" manipulation of the level. Grids also have this same concept. A level should extend across the entire building's scope for its 3D extent while individual views can have the 2D extent of levels altered independently.
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All of my levels are have been switched to 2D. Does that matter in this instance? Also annotation crop is turned off on the all the views in question.
OK, I got it after a little playing around. I needed to Rt click ON the levels on the section to maximize '3D Extents.' It went over my head for a minute. Thank you! Your suggestions are always so helpful & straight forward. It is very much appreciated:)
In reading your reply again I see that you also told me the solution, but I was just confused about what you were saying. Thank you for your help. It did go over my head b/c I assumed it did not apply b/c my levels were all switched to 2D. Turns out the maximizing the 3D extents still works even if the levels were switched to 2D. Oops!
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