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Join slopped floor with foundation !

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mairh_tsek
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Join slopped floor with foundation !

Hello all,

 

I have a slopped floor (I modified the sub elements) and I want to join the foundation (model-in place - blend) with it. When I do the join their quantities remain the same. 

I notice that if the floor was flat the quantities are adapted. 

 

Do you know what can I do in my situation? 

 

Thank you in advance! 

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RDAOU
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

@mairh_tsek 

 

When you modify the slab's sub elements, area/volume calculations tend to function differently; however they do function when the foundation has NO height offset from level. (See screencast)

 

When you have offsets, it is preferable to use 2 floor element

1st as structural slab (flat + joined to foundation)

2nd as screed to falls (with modified sub elements)

 

you would be modeling it more or less the same way you would build it … and you will have the quantities as they should be.

 

 

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mairh_tsek
als Antwort auf: RDAOU

@RDAOU 

 

Thank you for your time. In the image below is my situation.

Yes I have offset, I am confused, where are the two elements that I need to create?

 

 

Thank you.

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RDAOU
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

@mairh_tsek 

 

I see what you mean, I was under the impression that you had a grade slab with modified sun element to create slopes to falls.

 

In the  case you have (using a Sloped Slab) I would use 1 of the following:

  1.  Add a cut void in the foundation which can be adjustable to the slop angle of the slab
  2. An adaptive family oriented to host, which can adapt to the bottom surface of the slab

Both ways, you will not really need to join

 

Alternatively

 

You can use a Foundation Slab instead of Isolated Footings and chamfer the edges with a void

 

slab.png

 

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mairh_tsek
als Antwort auf: RDAOU

It is a slab by modify sub elements

 

With the  idea to make cut extrusion void (in order to cut the volume- left side) and extrusion void (in order to fill the gab - right side ), I have the result that I want..but as I will create an extrusion the edge of it will be 45degree only in the 2 sides (see image below) 

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RDAOU
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

@mairh_tsek 

No image Attached to your last reply...

 

however, in your first image in reply 3 … the bottom of the slab is sloped is: it looks more like a slab with an added Slope Arrow...can you post the .RVT? 

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mairh_tsek
als Antwort auf: RDAOU

Previous image - 2 

 

In image  - 3 you can check that the slab is modified by slab elements. 

 

I tried the option with the floor hosted family - I create a blend model in place element in the family editor, but in the project the family doesnt follow the floor slope

Thank you !

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RDAOU
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

@mairh_tsek 

 

Although both should work, use Face based since you need to align it to the face ...not floor based...your slab is sloped from the bottom too or am I seeing something wrong there? isn't that a section?

 

If you cannot upload the Revit file...Copy the slab + foundation and past in a new file which you can attach. Otherwise I really can't go on guessing

 

 

slab1.png

 

 

 

 

 

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mairh_tsek
als Antwort auf: RDAOU

@RDAOU  ,

 

I created also a face based family but in the project remains alwazs a gap between the fiundation and the sloped slab.

 

Attached you will find an example.

 

Thank you.

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

Why don't you just Join it in the correct Join Order so MTOs will be correct. 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

Make the foundation deeper so that it overlaps the slab, then join geometry.

 

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mairh_tsek
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

@ToanDN 

 

This is what I finally did...when I join them the quantities don't adapt..but there are some mm, so I think it is ok

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RDAOU
als Antwort auf: mairh_tsek

@mairh_tsek 

 

Do the following:

  1. Select Floor Slab
  2. Edit Properties >> edit Structure
  3. Set the slab as variable (This will level the bottom edge of the slab)t
  4. Now you can align the foundation with the bottom of the slab
  5. Use join geometry

This way your quantities will not be affected when joined since neither slab nor foundation are cut.

 

 

wew.png

 

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