Internal elevation create between levels

[brodieLFGM9]

Hey fam,

I have a query and wondered if anybody has a solution to my gripe. I would like to know if when placing an internal elevation view whether there is any way to nominate the vertical extents of the view I'm creating. Similarly to when placing a room you have the placement level and then the upper limit I would like to know if anyone has a similar work around to this when placing internal elevations?

Before people jump the gun and assume I'm an absolute newb at this, I am aware once placed you can edit the crop region to whatever shape you want however I'm trying to eliminate this process when placing the elevation.

Does anyone have any ideas or am I destined to continuously edit the crop region align the top and bottom and then accept for every internal elevation I create? 

Thanks all!! Peace!!

[Redrunner92 · Accepted solution]

First off, I've seen other people share similar frustrations and have dealt with the default crop boundaries of interior elevations several times myself. So this is a known topic for sure, and I empathize.

To get into the discussion, interior elevations react to geometry around them. For some examples, if you want to customize the tops of interior elevations to be lower than the project's ceiling, you can either temporarily move the ceiling down using the Offset property; or create a temporary ceiling with its bottom at the desired top extent of the elevations, then create your interior elevation views, then delete the temporary ceiling. Another example: if you want to make the elevations' views lower than the project's floor, then lower the floor element via the Offset property, then create your views, then raise the floor back to its true position. Such methods can help decrease how much crop boundary editing you will need to do, but you will most likely still need to edit the boundaries here-and-there.

[brodieLFGM9]

I have read a few posts about the interior elevations cropping between ceilings and floors and was hoping there might be another way out of it but I guess it is what it is.

The beef I have is its coming in at the bottom of my floor which is 10mm lower than the FFL, the top of the floor is the level constraint. As in attached picture.

[Redrunner92]

I've seen this exact thing in the past when I was searching for a solution. The best I found was to lower your floor element a very small amount (I work in Imperial units so 1/256" worked for me, you could try 1mm or so), create your views, then raise your floor element back up. That worked for me; let me know if it doesn't for you.

[brodieLFGM9]

Thanks, I'll give it a shot and see how I go.

What about after the fact? For example I work for a residential builder and on some occasions clients will change the ceiling heights after the plans have been created. Do you know of any ways to do a bulk change in that instance?

Or am I completely doomed? haha

[Redrunner92]

Nope. You will need to edit the crop region boundaries for each view, or create new elevation views. {Inevitable groan 😒} But "completely doomed" is a bit dramatic. When I've had to do this before, I put on my headphones and queued a song or two with good beats, then got down to business editing boundaries.

This is also why I refuse to create all of the interior elevation views until after the client has confirmed the design is complete (except minor changes which won't affect room sizes).

[brodieLFGM9]

As much as I was hopeful I thought that was the answer I was going to get.

Thanks for your help @Redrunner92, have a great day!!

[respresso]

This shall be largely automated. Something like that in this video should solve this problem. (disclaimer: I am the author).