Hi,
I work for a small (c.45) person architecture firm that will shortly be implementing Revit for an initial pilot project. Some of the team (maybe five of them) have used Revit before, but only one or two are very confident with it.
I know that we'll need some intensive training and I expect we'll hire a BIM manager in the medium-term, but for now, how important is it that we get a consultant in to advise on how we set up our standards, workflows etc.?
Any other advice on what we need to consider would be very helpful.
Thank you!
out of those 5 people that used Revit before have any of them setup a Template for Revit before?
it is always a good idea to bring in someone that knows Revit but it may not be cheap
So that really depends on how much your co-workers know about Revit then i would go from there
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I would consider getting a consultant to get you going. It will be expensive, but I would like to think you will get that $ back in the time savings you have not falling into traps and getting productivity bogged down trying to learn something new. They can help you avoid future pitfalls as well. It will make for more happy employees just able to do their job rather than having overhead of learning EVERYTHING all at once.
Regardless of whether there is a consultant or not, mistakes *will* happen and you'll probably lose quite a few hours fixing them and/or filling in parts where the OOTB content doesn't meet your needs. Management should be prepared for the possibility of taking a (small) loss on that initial project. As long as the client is happy with the deliverables, consider it a success.
As long as you're prepared for using a "lessons learned" approach from one project to the next you'll see gradual improvement.
I would recommend a consultant if you don't have anyone who is experienced with implementation. Users who know Revit helps, but knowing implementation in my opinion is another beast and requires good planning & communication skills.
Implementation is more about people and managing a good pathway. You need someone with good communication and training skills (with a lot of patience).
Short term I would recommend:
Hopefully you have a strong team that works well together, communicate weekly about what is working and what isn’t, make quick decisions & document your meeting notes, they act as a running checklist for the next project planning.
Remember, it’s just a pilot project, things are expected to go wrong, so don’t try and resolve everything because it will suck up your time. Everyone experienced in implementation will always tell you, it’s just about getting that first project over the line.
Good luck!!
Hello everyone,
Thanks for sharing all this valuable information. I worked with AutoCAD architecture before and did QA for Autodesk. Now I am working as REVIT manager and implementer. My Architecture background helps me understand the pressure of time management with any project, though it is hard to implement REVIT even with a small team (4 people) when everyone is using Sketch UP and AutoCAD 2013. I agree that communication skills are vital, and I would like to hear any advice on how to get on board people who are feeling like their methodology is been judge and are reluctant to migrate.
Thanks
@Anonymous,
ive been using revit in uk for 10 yrs and have seen many organisations in the throes of introducing revit. in my experience there are two essentials for success
1. top down committment
2. a revit champion - not necessarily an expert or a consultant - just someone who is totally committed to its implementation and success who will listen to your teams issues and problems and push for resolution by whatever revit means possible.
the problem with getting in a consultant will be that they will be spending their time learning what are your standards and workflows - rather than anything to do with revit. also you might discover that both your standards and your workflows might want / need to change in order to best exploit the productivity gains revit can bring.
what you will discover is that there are people who for reasons only clear to themselves who will be more interested in proving its failure......... if you cant change the people - change the people!!
Agreed with @Anonymous,
What you need is a "champion".
Training your employees is the most important step forward, but Revit is such a complex and complete software that you need a "specialist" on board.
He will:
So, three steps:
François-Gabriel
Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
BIM management and coaching
In the world of soccer, (I can't speak of American 'football', because I don't follow it), but at least in the world of soccer, teams compete in the market for hiring the best players they can. Some players are more expensive than others, and some teams have more budget than others. But each team tries to enhance their strengths by hiring the best people they can. It is almost the same in this case. A player with a proven record of good performance, good experience and knowledge, should give your company more benefits in return. Maybe that "player" will be more expensive, but also, he/she will help you score more "goals" and help to move your team up in the standings.
Hi guys, thank you very much for taking the time to write so many good ideas and advice. I really appreciate it. This gives me a lot of confidence. Just to provide some more details. In my office ( a small organization with less than 10 people) I am the only one with REVIT and BIM experience. I was hired to do the implementation and introduce BIM and REVIT to a group of designers working on interior design (about 80% of their work is ID, the other 20% is architecture). I do design but at this moment I am working alone, with nobody else using the same tools as me. I think I try to bite more than I am able to chew. Implementing, training, designing and managing people, together with a couple of projects that I am designing. Ironically the biggest challenge has been convincing people about the payback of BIM, to stop using tools from 2013 and to invest time and effort learning the new tools. I was hired to do this, and my strategy is pretty rational (at least I think so). Being the BIM Champion is a great role for me, and coming from 2 years working for Autodesk gives me credibility, I think I might need to fine tune my Implementation procedures. Taking one of the small projects seemed to be a good idea, though it is a huge investment of time.
Any advice from you (all of you who generously commented on my post) will be very welcome!
Thanks!
Charles
test them (some agencies use a revit testing mechanism that can tell just by your click rate and pattern which version of revit you know and how well you know it) - might cost a few bucks and worth it 100x over. the number of people ive met in my travels who make claims to know and use revit - and then turn out to know little above basic skills....... ![]()
and another thing...... ![]()
when i was asked to take up and train in revit (some 10+ yrs ago) i was very reluctant and most sceptical. from my point of view autocad wasnt being used to its full potential and could do everything revit was offering at the time. nonetheless i was carried kicking and screaming to the classroom.
and you know what i realised - my biggest fear was that in learning revit (any new software) i was going to be DE-skilled at my chosen application (autoCAD - which i had paid for training for myself!!) and its true...... luckily revit has become an industry leader and my 10 yrs experience provokes incredulity..... here you are 10yrs later just now taking it up.......
when i understood that the organisation i was working for at the time realised there was going to be a massive overhead - FOR THEMSELVES - then i was prepared to go along and be trained.
from my point of view it was a bit like folding paper drawings. i hate doing it - however if someone is going to be generous enough to pay my rate for me to fold drawings - I'LL DO IT ALL DAY LONG....
@Anonymous
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