How to model a zome?

How to model a zome?

matthieu.bour
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How to model a zome?

matthieu.bour
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Hello everyone,
I would like to model a building in the shape of a zome (see attached photo).
I start by modeling a 3d form on autocad to import it as a reference volume, but impossible to get what I want.
Do you have any ideas to suggest to me about the method to adopt?

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barthbradley
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Import your CAD directly into a Project Massing Environment. Close out and apply Roof by Face.  

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constantin.stroescu
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you can also, try to do it in Revit ,by using:

Image 1.png

 

 

 

Constantin Stroescu

EESignature

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matthieu.bour
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Thank you very much for your demonstration.
I learn every day!
I am a beginner on REVIT, and my project is certainly a bit ambitious.

 

Your design method is very interesting, but does not match the desired result.
The construction will be wood frame. By modeling the general volume and using the roof control by face, I get extruded faces on the Z axis.

But I would like to have extruded faces perpendicular to the plane of the face. Each rhombus represents a module in wood frame that will be linked to the other modules by wedges and threaded rods.
I hope to be clear enough (I'm french).
I'm attaching to you my AUTOCAD raw geometry file if it helps to get the final rendering. And a photo that represents the assembly.

 

Thank you again for your precious help!

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barthbradley
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Like this?  Roof by Mass Face as described above.

 

Dome1.png

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joe_keogh
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Hi @matthieu.bour 

 

If you start with a flat roof (No lines define slope), Roof by footprint, then Add reference planes to set-out the ridges of the roof.  Then you can you Add Split Line, trace the reference planes and create the roof you are after

Some Roof Plan.PNGSome Roof.PNGSome Plan Complete.PNG

Joe Keogh
Director | Design Technology + Innovation
www.viewlistic.com.au

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matthieu.bour
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Thank you for your help.

I managed to model the roof with my volume using the roof-by-face function.
I'm trying to model the walls, but when I attach the walls to the roof, REVIT points out an impossible mistake to ignore (see screenshot).
Do you have an idea?

 

Error Translation:
Can not keep the joint between the wall and roof.

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barthbradley
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Sounds and looks like your wall may be just missing part of the roof. Could be nothing more than wall thickness causing the issue. Try a thinner wall.  

 

...might even try changing the wall justification.  

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joe_keogh
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Not sure, works in mine, but I didn't build a roof by face.

Some.PNG

Joe Keogh
Director | Design Technology + Innovation
www.viewlistic.com.au

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matthieu.bour
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I tried with a thinner wall (70mm), but that does not solve the problem.

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barthbradley
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Just go to Plan View and check out the relationships. Betcha the wall sticks out a bit further from the roof. Change the wall justification to the plane/face it is hosted to.   

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matthieu.bour
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I will try your method, Joe. 


Thanks a lot for your help.
I keep you informed of the progress of the project!

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barthbradley
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Aw c'mon! Don't give up.  Send me what you've got. I'll make the **** walls attach.  Promise.  

 

 

 

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barthbradley
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Okay, I see what going on. This happens frequently when attaching gable-end walls to roof.  You need to split the wall in two, and attach them separately to the gable roof.  

 

Zome.png

Zome 2.png

 

 

 

...actually, I'm amazed that Revit could even figure it out. Check out how she looks with roof removed. (condition w/ 1'-0" overhang/wall inset)

 

Zome 3.png

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matthieu.bour
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Explorer

Thank you very much to all of you for your contributions.
As I said, I am a beginner with Revit and I still have a lot to learn.
I am very pleased to see that the Revit community is very active. This augurs beautiful shares!
It only remains for me to apply all that you have just told me and to appropriate all this!
Thanks again.

 

model zome.jpg