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How to edit material colour

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D_Slaa
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How to edit material colour

In the old asset library your are able to tint materials to modify their colour. We still use the old assets for this reason. Is there something we are missing in the new assets that would allow us to do the same thing? 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: D_Slaa

Which PBR Assets can't you tint?  All the ones I'm looking at, can be tinted.  

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L.Maas
als Antwort auf: D_Slaa

The new materials are of the type PBR (Physically Based Rendering). So they follow a more physical realistic model giving more natural looking results. So you could end up with better quality renders. This is also more in line with many other rendering packages. 

 

The Tint field does not fit in that model so it is missing with those material appearances. So you would need to take a better matching pbr appearance setting (e.g glass, metal), the ones without the exclamation mark,  and then use the available slots to get to the result you desire.

 

Basically it is a different workflow to get to the desired material.

Louis

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: L.Maas

Which PBR Assets can't you tint? All the ones I'm looking at, can be tinted.

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D_Slaa
als Antwort auf: L.Maas

So with the new materials I would have to source my own images, or edit the images that revit uses in photoshop or something first in order to achieve the desired colour. For example: Stone - fieldstone. I would like to make it appear darker, not as bright. I used to be able to add some grey tint to achieve the colour I wanted. In the new material how do I achieve the same effect?

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martijn_pater
als Antwort auf: D_Slaa

Which PBR Assets can't you tint? All the ones @barthbradley is looking at, can be tinted... are you looking for edit image dropdown under appearance asset parameter image?

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: martijn_pater

PBRs.jpg

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D_Slaa
als Antwort auf: martijn_pater

What we are trying to do is render a cmu wall with a paint applied to it. The client is painting his building and wants to see what it would look like. The new pbr materials we can't figure out how to show a cmu wall as blue. as that is the colour he is painting it.

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L.Maas
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Here an example of a PBR material

Revit PBR Material.png 

 

Here an example of a standard material.

Revit Non PBR Material.png

This is what I meant. Standard Materials have often the "Tint" field which is not present in PBR materials

 

And you have to use the other slots of the PBR material to create the material/colour

 

Louis

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L.Maas
als Antwort auf: D_Slaa

Use the paint appearance (for example) and you can create colour you like

Revit Paint APpearance.png

Louis

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: D_Slaa


@D_Slaa wrote:

What we are trying to do is render a cmu wall with a paint applied to it. The client is painting his building and wants to see what it would look like. The new pbr materials we can't figure out how to show a cmu wall as blue. as that is the colour he is painting it.


 

Why don't you paint the CMU. 

 

FWIW: Some Paint Manufactures, such as Sherwin Williams, provide ADKLIBs of their Paints/Colors.

 

https://www.sherwin-williams.com/home-builders/specifications/specification-sites/bim-library

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D_Slaa
als Antwort auf: L.Maas

so with the new material I can't edit the colour. How would I paint it without over riding the material?

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: D_Slaa

So you want to change the color of the CMU - not apply Paint to the Surface?  

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martijn_pater
als Antwort auf: D_Slaa

Why not just use Generic asset under default?

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D_Slaa
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Yes. The texture of the cmu is to be kept.

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D_Slaa
als Antwort auf: martijn_pater

We would like to move away from the legacy materials if we can.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: D_Slaa

Are you aware that you can use the Paint Tool (on the Modify Tab) to actually apply Paint Material to the Surface of the CMU?  

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D_Slaa
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

I always used the paint to replace a section of a material or a face of an object with a different material, never to change the colour of the material already applied.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: D_Slaa

You might read about Applying a Material to the Face of an Element and the BIM value it brings to your Project via Scheduling. 

 

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2014/EN...

 

 

 

 

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martijn_pater
als Antwort auf: D_Slaa

Perhaps you could just color the material and keep the bump material (or color the texture externally using photoshop ie.)?

 

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