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How to add doors and windows to organic curtain wall?

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Anonymous
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How to add doors and windows to organic curtain wall?

Could someone help me?

I want to add windows and doors to curtain wall that is made by face from conceptual mass as shown in figure

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

You need to remove some grids and mullions from where door goes and then replace the panel with a CW Door (or a Basic Wall to host a conventional Door). 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

I tried that but I didn't have the aim

The curtain panel in this case can't be converted to basic wall, too. It can be converted to empty only.

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SteveKStafford
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

A door can't just go in a wall like that, it has to be designed so it can break into it. It's not going to swing up/down like the panels are facing in reality. As such the host form should have a void to carve out where your entry assembly would go. Then the curtain system will go around it. Then you model what the entry door system would be.


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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: SteveKStafford

This is a complex way. for windows what should I do!

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Do you have a CW Door loaded in the Project.  It should be in the drop-down. But, I isn't going to work if you are intending to put it on that sloped surface you're showing in your picture.   Be kind of a weird door opening.; don't you think. Maybe build a entry vestibule onto the structure for your door.    

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Yes, I loaded this door.  I accept with you.. maybe I can't add doors or windows to this sloped wall. maybe I should build it.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

What kind of windows are you envisioning?  I mean the Glazing is there already. Are you thinking maybe a different shaped mullion? 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Create the "door" and "window" as adaptive families, then place them on nodes. Ever think about how they would work in real life?

 

Another way (not verified) is create them as face based families with void and host them on the curtain panels.

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Right glazing is there already. but I need to change the panel to curtain wall awning as picture  because this model  will be loaded to environmental programs to be analyzed. awning can entry fresh air to the space.aw.png

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

I think many of these are  applied in real life. I accept with you that the door is hosted on void in a family but how to make it? 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Are you planning to make the doors plumb or tilted? Swinging, sliding?
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SteveKStafford
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

A void will cut out where the entry should go. What the entry should look like is design. Build it with walls, roof, doors or create a custom in-place family if regular forms aren't what you have in mind.

 

Keep in mind that for most analysis tools they don't care what your actual model is made up of, just what you tell the software it is made of, how big it is, where it is etc. The form alone itself is enough for broad analysis results.


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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: ToanDN


@ToanDN wrote:
Are you planning to make the doors plumb or tilted? Swinging, sliding?

 

 

Automatic sliding?  I like it! 

 

CW Door.png

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Works this way too. 

 

CW Door.png

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: SteveKStafford

I tried that. I could make voids. But I don't know how to build family  in place of void.

look the first picture.. I can cut the wall but I don't know how to add tilted glass in these places. Also, I have a vertical curtain wall but  the curtain grids are curved and the curtain panel can't be converted to door look the second picture.

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

plumb and sliding and another tilted and sliding.

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

I want exactly this door. How to make it?

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