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Hololens and Revit

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Anonymous
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Hololens and Revit

Give me some feedback from anyone who has worked with a Revit project using Microsoft Hololens please. We're thinking of using this, so I was wondering if anyone has some real world case studies, and how it went. Did you find it fairly easy to implement? Were there certain glitches that caused any big problems? How did you personally interface Revit and Hololens? Just as much feedback as possible from someone who used Hololens in an actual project. Thanks!
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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

I am working with a colleague to develop a plugin for revit that would bring similar interactivity hololens has with maya.

May I know what exactly you want a hololens to interact with revit or what you would like to do ... 

thank you

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Keeshuising
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Hi Nathan,

 

I have also been looking for the opportunity to try the hololens with revit. But for now the hololens isn't ready yet for Revit because it can handle a limited amount of polygons. That's also the reason why autodesk isn't exploring the hololens for Revit now.

For now the HTC vive is the best option. But is stil is VR in its own world. (you can't see whats happening outside the VR environment)

 

But when the hololens or something simulair will be ready for revit, there will be a real revolution in architecture and construction.

Maybe Autodesk can build there own improved hololens,

I would root for that!

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Anonymous
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Sorry for the late reply @Anonymous, I would like to demo models for the client on a conference table, much like the small scale models architects build. 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: Keeshuising

@Keeshuising there's got to be a way to export or convert the model to a usable format for Hololens right?

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Keeshuising
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Of course you can try maybe Stingray, already a game engine based program by autodesk. I am going to try out Lumion It's a great render based VR environment wich works great with Revit. Maybe that will work. 

 

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Anonymous
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Any updates on this?

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Anonymous
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Hello gents,

I am a developer and application specialist for hsbcad, and we managed to get a couple of development editions of the Hololens. We have been working to push our models onto the device for design review. Although the concerns here around model size and performance are valid, we've found ways of getting around most of them.

 

We currently only have one application in development for Hololens, and it works in conjunction with hsbShare. HsbShare allows you to push your model to the Autodesk Forge service, we then imbed metadata on top of this 3d model to foster communication with remote team members, or with field installers, or perhaps the production shop. In addition to tagging documents, photos, or videos to an entity in the model you can select a subset of the model and push it down to Hololens.

 

So I think the fix for performance is to be picky about what parts of the model you send to the device. For instance, if you have an entire building modeled but are wanting to review exterior appearance or site logistics you'd only push down the exterior shell, and perhaps the landscape if you have it modeled. If you want to review traffic patterns on the 1st floor you'd just select that to send to the device.

 

It's early days for this new device, but the fact that it recognizes room geometry and anchors virtual 3d models to real-world objects will make it an unparalleled device for design review. Built into the SDK is the ability to coordinate the model display between multiple Hololenses, so you'd be able to discuss it with several other people, and point to various objects, scale the model up and down, activate clipping planes....

 

Indeed, early days and an expensive V1 device, but keep your eyes on this space as I have no doubt it will be a critical, versatile, and unparalleled tool going forward.

 

If you're attending AU this year, stop by the booth and I'll give you a demo of our Hololens application, we will have 2 devices at our booth this year.

 

Cheers,

craig colomb, Seattle WA

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Anonymous
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Sounds pretty awesome. I heard the main problem was the number of polygons. I am looking to use it to show off medical equipment in the rooms ot would be in. Is thus possible currently?
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Anonymous
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Wow! That's just killer. My 18 year old is training under me now just recently. I told he'll be using holographic computing if he pursues this career! It'll only be a matter of time :zwinkerndes_Gesicht:

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Anonymous
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@Anonymous I think you'll see the best answer from the accepted solution.

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peter.neil.nz
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Sorry for bumping this thread as I realise this thread is a bit old. We have been working on a Hololens application to view Revit models - with the concept being able to walk through the building during construction and fit out stage and see the Revit model overlaid on the actual space.  We still have a couple of features to add before we fully release it but the following video should give an idea about how it works:

https://youtu.be/_10rQ-6BfFQ

 

Note: To get the video to look reasonable we had to set the background image to black, but in the actual application the you get to see the model in context of the real building environment.

 

Best regards

 

Peter Neil

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Anonymous
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awesome peter!

 

I can't wait to see your achievements. Is it possible to inform us whenever you have any news? When do you think your first version gets out?

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peter.neil.nz
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Thanks Alireza,

 

We are aiming to release a beta version of this application within the next 2-3 weeks, but it won't be a public beta as such instead we are looking at working with specific Revit users.  Currently we have 2 beta users but we could look to having another 1-2 come on board if you are interested?  

 

The main thing we want to cover with our beta testing is to with a range of permutations of models.  Since my last post we have a new version of our Revit Viewer can now handle much larger models (commercial building scale), but we don't expect that to be without limits - but we just need to know what those limits are!! Then we can advise customers what they need to do to create 3D Views that will be compatible with our application.  So as part beta process customers will need to be aware that we may ask them to submit different variations of 3D Views until we get working versions 

 

I will be posting a new video next week that shows where we are with our development, although our Hololens client application is pretty much complete now is just the supporting web service that needs to be completed.       

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: peter.neil.nz

Hi Peter,

 

I'm very interested but since I have no Microsoft Hololens device yet, I don't know if I can be one of your test users or not. But I'm pretty sure I'll buy one just to use your application very soon. 

 

As you may know, there is an application named shapetrace which is using google tango in order to map BIM application data into augmented reality and it works well. It gives the capability to take the BIM model (from Navisworks, Revit, IFC) into the field. It's not for design, but rather a visualization and error checking tool for the field worker and for site monitoring.

 

I'm pretty sure that using Microsoft Hololens and your application it is completely different experience. Please let me know whenever you have news or available version to work with.

 

Best regards,

Alireza Najari

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peter.neil.nz
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Hi Alireza,

 

In some respects what we are doing is very similar to Shapetrace but using Hololens rather than Google Tango.

 

In a future release we plan to have the ability to display metadata and log issues as well similar to what Shapetrace have shown but that won't be included in Version 1.0.  Also, we are committed for our application to be Revit only as a lot of our logic is based the way Revit organises models.

 

 

Best regards

 

Peter Neil

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peter.neil.nz
als Antwort auf: peter.neil.nz

For those who are interested I have uploaded a new video showing our updated Revit Hololens Application: https://youtu.be/7QAOPtektdc

 

The key features that are included now are:

  • Support for larger building models
  • More control over viewing and display
  • We have the ability to download and cache models from our web service

 

This isn't released as we still have some work to do on our web application to allow customers to easily submit their own models for viewing on the Hololens.

 

If you would like to know more or have any questions please let me know. 

 

 

Best regards

 

Peter Neil

 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: peter.neil.nz

That was amazing peter. Go on.

 

Please upload more videos from your work and let us know whenever you release a version.

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Anonymous
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Hi everyone,

 

I just wanted to announce that we have just released our new software product which enable you to push Revit models to Hololens with few clicks. The app is called HoloLive3D and you can see more detail below:

 

Please watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxfhceti0-4&t=2s

 

Website: www.visualive3d.com

 

Thank you,

 

Saeed

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peter.neil.nz
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

We have just moved our Revit Holoview application into production from a fairly long beta !!

 

I realize that number of our Beta clients have originated from this forum - so for those people I would like to say a big thank you! Your input was really valuable to our development process!!

 

If you have a Hololens and would like to try out the software to view you Revit models then you can sign up for a trial on www.revitholoview.com.  A demo model will be created on your account immediately so you can have a go from there.

 

 

 

If you have any questions about this please let me know

 

 

Best regards

 

Peter Neil

 

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