Hide annotations for ground plan

[alix-hs]

Hello,

Does anyone knows how to hide generic annotation (nested in families) displayed by storeys below, when view range is set to display the below storey in primary range ? Like in ground plan for example.

A logical behaviour of revit would be at least to hide the annotations whose families are hidden by some 3D elements placed above, like floors, but it didn't.

The goal is to keep displayed the usefull annotations for the ground plan, like roof elements annotations, or external ground floor equipements annotations.

Thanks

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

To sum it up, you have a roof plan and you want to hide nested anno inside families place under the roof, but show those for families placed on the ground outside the building and above the roof.

If so, create a plan region for the interior of the building and change view depth to not extend to far beyond the roof.

[barthbradley]

2D annos are not hidden by 3D elements.  They are drawn at the detail plane of the view (e.g. the plane closest to you when you look at the view).   Sounds like your view cut plane is intersecting the family below.   

[alix-hs]

Yes it should do the trick, even if I will have the buildings outline to draw

[barthbradley]

Why not underlay?  

[alix-hs]

My view cut plane is not cutting the family bellow, but this family below is included in the primary range bottom.

[barthbradley]

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you could put the annos on a uniquely named subcategory and turn that subcat off in the project view.  

or...if available...check "show only when cut" under the anno's visibility settings

[alix-hs]

Use underlay is a good idea, but it won't show the annotations of the ground level. Same problem with the "show only when cut" option (which work otherwise but need the components to be cut by the primary range cut plane, and so need all the components to be cut by the same cut plane).

Subcategories of annotations will be complex to use, between the annotations to show on the roof level, and at the same time hide in the storeys below. It may quickly need a great number of subcategories (and so families) to create.

Finally i think the easier option may be to hide annotation category for ground plan and rely on labels to replace them. Or draw plans regions to hide annotations below the roof, even if the complexity of the building may need more than one region plan if the building has lower wings.

[barthbradley]

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@alix-hs wrote:

Subcategories of annotations will be complex to use, between the annotations to show on the roof level, and at the same time hide in the storeys below. It may quickly need a great number of subcategories (and so families) to create.

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Subcategories would be "complex to use"???    I'm a huge proponent of Subcategories precisely because they are not complex.  Just to clarify, I'm referring to OBJECT STYLE Subcategories.  

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2018/EN...

[ToanDN]

If you don't want to use Plan Region(s), you can place the families in different Worksets (e.g. Site, Interior, Roof), and turn off Interior / turn on Site and Roof for that view.

Sub-categories do not work.  Just think about placing the same family in the building under the roof (Hide), on the site outside of the building (Show), and above the roof (Show).  How would you use sub-categories in such scenario?

I still think using Plan Region(s) is the easiest way, as what you are after is clearly controlling the view depth, not controlling categories or elements.

[barthbradley]

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@ToanDN wrote:

How would you use sub-categories in such scenario?

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Obviously, you wouldn't.  That's not close to the scenario I was envisioning.