Group title block families based on paper size

[tobias.bjornstad]

Hi, setting up a new project template for my firm, and wondered if there is any way to group title blocks based on paper size? By default they all have their own heading as well as the title block name repeated in a sub-category type setup, and it looks very disorganized and hard to navigate. The setup looks to me as if it should be possible to group them together, but I have not found a way to do it. Attached a screen of how it looks now.

I would like the menu to look something like this instead:

A1

>  Landscape horizontal

>  Landscape vertical

>  Portrait horizontal

>  Portrait vertical

A2

>  Landscape horizontal

etc....

Thanks

[HVAC-Novice]

I don't think I fully understand why a specific paper size needs 4 different layouts. Do you need landscape and portrait etc.? I've never seen actual plans that are not landscape and change layout throughout the set (unless the set consists of different firms' work - but then they use differently families anyway). I use one family for one paper size (mostly only Arch D for me) and with visibility parameters I have 3 types of sheet. A coversheet type that shows the project title on top, a regular plan sheet type that shows north arrow and example scales, and a detail sheet type that shows none of the above.

In theory you could squeeze multiple layouts or sheetsizes into one family and use a lot of visibility parameters. But you are better off to use different families for different sheet formats. 

[ToanDN]

Add a Project text parameter and assign to Sheets category.  Enter value of that parameters or sheets.  Create a new Sheet organization and group by that parameter.

[tobias.bjornstad]

You are on to something here but not exactly what I was looking for. I am not trying to group the actual sheets themselves based on paper size, but rather the different title blocks in the drop-down menu when creating/altering sheets. The screenshot above shows the drop down-menu when changing the title block of a sheet, and they are all listed as their own group and sub-element kind of setup, listing every name twice.

This setup is a little messy and it takes an extra second or three to orient myself and locate the specific sheet setup I'm looking for. So not a big issue, just looking for a quality of life improvement if there is any. 

[RDAOU]

@tobias.bjornstad 

Can only be done in 2 ways:

1. Use a Family Browser addin in lieu of the built in drop down menu
2. Model the Family with various types...ie:
   • A1 would be the family
   • All what is under are family types