Getting a nested array to void

Getting a nested array to void

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Getting a nested array to void

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Can anyone advise me how to get this cylindrical array to be subtracted by this void?  I've set the nested family used in the array to be subtracted with void when nested.  Still not working.  Any help is greatly appreciated.  I've attached the array family below.

 

 

 

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Wouldn't it be simpler to make a diagonal array?

 

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An interesting point.  I'm clearly not in a position to argue :).  So often these challenges are born out of an interest to solve related problems.  I ultimately have a more challenging problem that I'd like to solve also.  I've attached that image below.  It would be great to know how to solve this situation as well and I was imagining I could use a similar methodology for this as well.  Crossing my fingers you'll have an equally good idea for this situation.  Not the first time you've helped me.  Thank you.

 

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I had the impression that you were working on a railing. So what is the question, how to do a railing like shown above? What does the red "x" mean in the picture?


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Yes!  I'm working on a railing but it is  interrupted at the bottom by a tilted column that is sufficiently big that the entire guardrail can terminate at this slated wood column.  My challenge is how to terminate this guardrail in a way that abbreviates it at the column.  Everything you see to the right of the column should not be there.  This guardrail is made up of several components.  One of them is a railing that is a wire mesh infill panel that I would like to slope with the stair pitch AND stop at the column.  I was trying to use the void form to do this.  At this point I think I need to generate a shorter length of railing separately from the stair and extend the top rail, but I still don't know how to extend the various lower components.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

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Because this is a special condition, I would not try to do this as a railing, or as families. The curtain wall tool would be easier and more flexible for doing changes. 

 

Do a curtain wall, and modify its profile in elevation with Edit Profile, as shown below. 

 

Do the wire mesh infill panel as mullions of the curtain wall, with the following characteristics: 

  • panel : empty
  • vertical grid : layout : maximum spacing 4", mullion type: (a new mullion type with a circular profile, with the desired radius).
  • horizontal grid: layout: maximum spacing 4", mullion type (same as above).

In the instance properties, select the curtain wall, and, assign an angle to the horizontal grid = -1 * slope , for example = -30 , or -20.

 

Then, I would add the posts and top and bottom rails as structural framing wood elements. Or as a model in-place extrusion.

 

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This was really quite helpful.  Thank you so much.  I have a further challenge but  it really is a new one.  If I wasn't a little worn out I would start a new thread.  🙂  I did a guardrail based on your essential comment to use the curtain wall tool.  Because I had the issues with getting border mullions to join correctly, I went ahead and created three separate curtain walls that were essentially located in the same spot.  I didn't even solve how to get horizontal mesh bars and vertical mesh bars to travel past each other without segmenting.  Not elegant, I know, but creating multiple curtain walls allowed me to at least economize on the creation of usable wall profiles.  If you have any further advice on how to manipulate the way border mullions join that would be a refinement on this approach.  As it stands all the geometry is there but I'll have to manipulate the line work a bit for my working drawings to read properly in elevation.  In the meantime, thank you so much for that useful tip.  Really very helpful.

 

Mike

 

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Just read your answer more thoroughly.  You've already answered my question.  You wouldn't use the curtain wall panel more than once.  Sorry, sounds like you'd just use members.

 

Thanks again.

 

Mike

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Just read your answer more thoroughly.  You've already answered my question.  You wouldn't use the curtain wall panel more than once.  Revised image below with your complete approach.

 

Thanks again.

 

Mike

 

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