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Generic void won't cut some wall family

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charlesUYHXW
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Generic void won't cut some wall family

Hi, 

 

I have a generic model with the "cut with void when loaded" option ticked, but when I have loaded it into the family, I am unable to cut the wall with it. See below image... where the two wall families come together, I would like to cut a notch of both walls. I can cut the wall on the right, but not the wall on the left. 

 

But why? what am I doing wrong here?

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RDAOU
als Antwort auf: charlesUYHXW

@charlesUYHXW 

 

Cut with Void when loaded is intended for use when family is loaded into the model so in principle, you shouldn't be having any issues if all that is happening in the project...otherwise, if you are trying to use a nested void to cut within the family environment, try a face based generic model void instead.

 

...Should you upload the subject families, will be glad to have a look at it/them

 

 

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hmunsell
als Antwort auf: charlesUYHXW


@charlesUYHXW wrote:

I have a generic model with the "cut with void when loaded" option ticked, but when I have loaded it into the family, I am unable to cut the wall with it. See below image... where the two wall families come together, I would like to cut a notch of both walls. I can cut the wall on the right, but not the wall on the left. 


A little confused by what you wrote :lächelndes_Gesicht_mit_lächelnden_Augen:. Your saying you have a Generic Model that your loading into a Family to cut a Wall. Did you mean you have made a Generic Model Family as a Void, and loaded it into a Project to cut 2 walls?

 

When placing a family, especially one with voids or openings that cuts its host, it will typically only cut the one it is placed on. If you have 2 walls side by side, I believe it will only cut one of them. if you make a Model in Place as a Void it can cut both by using the Cut tool.

 

 

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RDAOU
als Antwort auf: hmunsell


@hmunsell wrote:

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When placing a family, especially one with voids or openings that cuts its host, it will typically only cut the one it is placed on. If you have 2 walls side by side, I believe it will only cut one of them. if you make a Model in Place as a Void it can cut both by using the Cut tool.

 


Not true... a non-hosted void in a generic model can cut more than one element 

 

Edit...There see :leicht_lächelndes_Gesicht: This should save you the trouble of double checking 

 

Void Non hosted.gif

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hmunsell
als Antwort auf: RDAOU

I stand corrected then, LOL... Ill have to give that a try :strahlendes_Gesicht_mit_lächelnden_Augen:.

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charlesUYHXW
als Antwort auf: charlesUYHXW

I created a face based void to test, but I get the same message. And the panel on the right still has no problem cutting, only the panel on the left. Attached is the 2 subject void families (one face based called with "test" added to the tittle)

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RDAOU
als Antwort auf: charlesUYHXW

@charlesUYHXW 

 

 

In the face based void...the void need to cut the host. See GIF below

When you load into the model or a family:

  1. You either cut each wall using a separate void family instance (being hosted, each void will cut its own host)
  2. Or You can join 2 wall elements and cut both with 1 void (walls being joined, the face based void will cut the Joined Geometry)

You can implement the same concept using a Void in a Window or Door family

Void face.gif

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charlesUYHXW
als Antwort auf: charlesUYHXW

Thank you for you fast and clear responses. Following @RDAOU's video exactly, I still got the same message which lead me to assuming it must be an issue with the walls being cut. Turns out, the wall on the left had the phase created set to none, vs the wall on the right which was set to new construction. Having changed this I can now cut the wall with no problem. 

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