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Generic Annotation - Visibility Controlled items affecting sheet printable area

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Anonymous
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Generic Annotation - Visibility Controlled items affecting sheet printable area

Hello,

 

We use generic annotation families on a sheet for our general notes page. In the family i have different groups of text that are linked to visibility parameters and conditional statements so that different text appears depending on the amount of batteries installed in the facility. The problem is when the family has text that is turned off due to the visibility parameter the size of invisible text still affects the printable area of the sheet. If the shortened text is moved down to align with the bottom of the sheet, the longer invisible text goes off the sheet and causes Revit to print with the center moved down a few inches. You can see when clicking on the family that Revit still considers the family with invisible text to be larger because the "crosshair grip" is lower than the visible family. 

 

Is this a glitch or the way text and families work on sheets? Is there a work around?

 

Sub-question:

My other answer to this would be to use a family parameter which only loads the correct family of text depending on conditional statements. The problem with this is the generic annotation family is also loading type parameters from a text file. So when the family parameter is asked to choose a family it has a multiple of each family for each type. Meaning i cannot simply add an if/then statement to load the correct family because each time a user loads the family and brings in another type, the number of family options grows. Is there a way to use the family parameter without it being type specific? 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Revit Print Setup > Paper Placement > Choose Offset from corner > No
Margin. Do not choose Center.

 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

This does not work. The invisible text that is below the margin still affects the printable area. See attached print preview. 

 

I have found a fix by just rearranging the text in the family but it would be nice if the visibility parameter effectively hid items from the print process. 

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chrisplyler
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Instead of placing your annotation family directly on a Sheet, place it into a Drafting View and put that Drafting View onto a Sheet. The Drafting View can be cropped.

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Perhaps it has something with how you created the family because I did a test and it turned out okay as I've shown it.  If you want someone to look at the family then feel free to post it.

 

Putting the annotation family in Drafting Views as suggested by @chrisplyler, or Legend Views does not seem like a bad idea. 

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chrisplyler
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Legend View would be even better as you could put the same view on multiple sheets.

 

 

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