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finish floors vs. structural

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rteplow
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finish floors vs. structural

I'm teaching myself Revit (I own Revit LT 2021) and am modeling my apartment building (9 floors, 4 apartments/floor) as my first project. I'm trying to use best practices and want to avoid over modeling and enormous file size.

 

After searching this forum it seems that the best way to do floors is have separate structural floor and finish floor and then join them. That way, structural floor can bear on the exterior wall while finish floor does not. I plan to set the top of finish floor to floor level, so offset structural -1 1/2". 

 

1) should I also have a finish ceiling?

 

2) do all interior walls then have a -1 1/2" offset also, or will Revit figure out from function (1-5 value)? Will this screw up the doors?

 

3) I'd like to have different tile patterns in the floor finish plan: do I have separate finish floor types or do I "fake it" with hatches, masks... (I haven't gotten to drafting views, details, etc.)

 

4) I haven't even started on the finish schedule!

 

Thanks for all your help in the past. I now realize that I should ask questions only when I'm ready to test them out so that I can say if my problem was solved. I'm sorry that I asked some questions prematurely.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rteplow

So the gist of your question  is whether you should model compound-layered types  (e.g. Walls, Floors, Roofs) or single layer types and "sandwich" them together into an assembly.   Both approaches are valid and each approach has its advantage and disadvantages.  If you are learning the software, I would learn both so you know these advantages and disadvantages.  

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rteplow
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Thanks, barthbradley. I still want to hear from others, so all comments welcome!
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Jarryd-Harding
als Antwort auf: rteplow

I try to apply this logic - model as it would be built. Structural floors separately, eg concrete, timber or steel structure. Then with finishes added as separate floor above. Floor finishes, as constructed will have various underlays or 'levelling' techniques used on site. Your approach above is one of the ways to document it, but as barthbradley says above, learn the pros and cons of each way.

1. You could, if the structure & thickness of each ceiling type is the same and you are applying a ceiling across the whole area with vary finishes. I typically model them as a ceiling finish with its associated structure, between the walls of the rooms.
2. You will have to specify the walls to have a set down to meet the slab. Or the slab can have a structural level associated with it, and set the walls off this at 0. You can then add in a 'floor finish' level.
3. Separate floor finishes is the way to go. Avoid faking it.
4. You will use a material schedule, I suggest watching some YouTube videos on this.

Hope that helps.
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dan.d.pain
als Antwort auf: rteplow

for me I started learning both, it might seem a stupid question but what do u mean by 1-1/2', add to that we really don't use the imperial system here never.

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