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Filters - Wall Room bounding not available?

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Anonymous
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Filters - Wall Room bounding not available?

I am trying to add a filter that can detect whether the wall is room bounding or not. Surprisingly, it is not available. I tried "More parameters", but it was also absent.

 

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Is there a way to get access to this parameter or a reason why it is missing?

 

Thanks

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

How would you use that parameter/field in a wall schedule if it was available? Just curious. You can detect which walls are bounding rooms by looking at a plan view and seeing how the Rooms are bound. 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

It is to color code walls in plan. We are treating our apartment units as a single room, so we are making all interior walls of groups not room-bounding.

 

To do Quality Assurance, I'd like to have a view where I can quickly get an overview of what walls are room bounding or not. So I was going to make a vew where all room bounding walls are orange and all non room-bounding walls are blue. That way if a user makes a mistake, I can tell easily.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

How would you make them blue and orange? Wouldn't it simplify things to have 2 different wall types, each with it's own color representation? 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

I would change the color with filters.

 

There are 20+ wall types. the basic partition is used everywhere and must have the same tag. It would be a bit unweildly to have to similar walls like this, I don't think the team would see the worthiness of the extra communal effort.

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Use a simple Dynamo script to bring the Room Bounding value to another parameter, then use that parameter to Filter.

 

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

@Anonymous: You want to identify all the different wall types that are Room Bounding using a View Filter, so he can color those walls differently from the non-bounding walls in the view. Basically, use it as "Red-Line" tool.  Then, I suppose that if a wall is incorrectly checked "Room Bounding", it will be unchecked and colored blue in the view. I can just as easily identify all the different wall types that are Room Bounding by turning on Interior Room Fill in the View. No red-lining involved. 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Thanks Toan!

 

Im still wondering what the logic of the filters missing parameters is. Like why are some parameters included and others not? The mysteries of Autodesk Revit.

 

My next problem is that the non-room-bounding walls keep room bounding. I have to select them, select room-bounding and then reselect no-room-bounding to fix them, but they seem to gradually self corrupt. Great fun!

 

Have you ever come accross this problem? It seems like simple corruption.

 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

Just to be clear, this is a temporary solution (Dynamo). The real solution is Autodesk giving us access to all parameters in Filters, assuming there is no logical reason not to do so.

 

Huge thanks to Toan for getting me a temporary solution WITH a Dynamo defenition :leicht_lächelndes_Gesicht:

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous


@Anonymous wrote:

Thanks Toan!

 

Im still wondering what the logic of the filters missing parameters is. Like why are some parameters included and others not? The mysteries of Autodesk Revit.

 

My next problem is that the non-room-bounding walls keep room bounding. I have to select them, select room-bounding and then reselect no-room-bounding to fix them, but they seem to gradually self corrupt. Great fun!

 

Have you ever come accross this problem? It seems like simple corruption.

Yes I have.  I have no clue why.

 


 

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

I will sacrifice a spotless white goat to apease the Revit Gods, may they look favorably upon us all!

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jkidder
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

It would be helpful to have the option to filter and schedule on the room bounding parameter.  It comes up frequently in trying to QA/QC models and especially trying to create energy models.  I've added an idea to the forum to help convey that need to Autodesk here: Add "Room Bounding" as a filter and schedule option  

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