Filled Region (detail item) preventing Spot Elevation

[SamM6AYEL]

In Revit 2024, I want to be able to draw filled regions over certain areas of my Area Plan views and then annotate with the floor slab (underside - SSL) spot elevation.

I've just noticed that after drawing the filled regions, it removes the spot elevations and I'm unable to place them again.

Is it possible for my spot elevation to ignore detail items / filled regions?

[barthbradley]

No issues here.  Is the View Visual Style set to Hidden?  

...FWIW: 

[barthbradley]

Just to be clear: Spot Elevations don't recognize Fill Regions.  Fill Regions  are drawn at the Detail Plane of the View - the Plane closest to you. They're two-dimensional. 

[leeUT3Y6]

The issue is that Fill Regions are details, an annotation. They shouldn't prevent you from spotting the underlying floor.

[RSomppi]

It doesn't remove them. They are still there, just hidden.

[leeUT3Y6]

This is true. But this is not the issue here.
The issue is that you can not add spot elevations to a floor covered with a filled region. 
This is a bug or poor design. Filled regions are annotations, and spot elevations spot model elements like floors, walls and etc. 
Spot elevations should ignore anything that is not a model element. 

[RSomppi]

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@leeUT3Y6 wrote:

But this is not the issue here.

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Sorry, you brought it up and your observations were incorrect.

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@leeUT3Y6 wrote:

you can not add spot elevations to a floor covered with a filled region.

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True, you need to turn off the the filled region.

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@leeUT3Y6 wrote:

Filled regions are annotations, and spot elevations spot model elements like floors, walls and etc. 
Spot elevations should ignore anything that is not a model element. 

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They do ignore annotations.

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@leeUT3Y6 wrote:

This is a bug or poor design. 

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Call it what you want but it is the way Revit works. People have been complaining about similar issues forever. 

[leeUT3Y6]

You people will accept anything.
You pay thousands of dollars for a software, and you still need to find workaround for a simple task like adding spot elevations 😔

[RSomppi]

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@leeUT3Y6 wrote:

You people will accept anything.
You pay thousands of dollars for a software, and you still need to find workaround for a simple task like adding spot elevations 😔

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Why the attack? It does nothing to help with your issue.

You actually shouldn't make such assumptions. I've been using Revit for over 15 yrs. and have never paid a dime for it. I get paid to use it.

Adding spot elevations is simple, just not in the way that you want to do it.

[leeUT3Y6]

You keep justifying their bug, and that is definitely not helping with the issue.  
It's hard enough to make things getting done here to improve this software without your 'help'
Maybe if you were paying for it out of your own pocket, you'd speak differently. 

If you need to:
1.select the region

2. Hide it

3. Adding spot elevation

4. Select again the region
5. Unhide the region.

That's four actions too many, and you can try to sugarcoat it all you want — it's a bug at best, and poor design at worst.

[RSomppi]

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@leeUT3Y6 wrote:

You keep justifying their bug,

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No, I am not.

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@leeUT3Y6 wrote:

It's hard enough to make things getting done here to improve this software without your 'help'

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You are in the wrong forum. The Ideas forum is where you can suggest new features. This forum is for getting things done.

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@leeUT3Y6 wrote:

Maybe if you were paying for it out of your own pocket, you'd speak differently. 

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I would not. Stop making assumptions about me just to justify yourself.

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@leeUT3Y6 wrote:

If you need to:
1.select the region

2. Hide it

3. Adding spot elevation

4. Select again the region
5. Unhide the region.

That's four actions too many, and you can try to sugarcoat it all you want — it's a bug at best, and poor design at worst.

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Again, it is just the way it works. WE cannot do ANYTHING about that in this forum. Have you also noticed that once you turn it back on, the new ones get "removed" like the other ones? Sometimes, when a program won't do what you want it to do, you need to have a look at your workflows or look at other programs.

[Mike.FORM]

What version of revit are you using? I am not able to reproduce the issue.

I can add spot elevations to any surface hidden by a filled or masking region in 2024 and 2025.

[leeUT3Y6]

Could you share a screenshot? I'm using Revit 2025, and this issue goes back in all versions as far as I can remember.

[Mike.FORM]

It appears this is a bug that It does not work on surfaces with a slope obscured by filled regions.

If the surface is flat it works fine.

[Mike.FORM]

Here's another interesting point. It does work if you use the spot elevation on a folding line or edges that are obscured. It seems to only not work on the surface.

[RDAOU]

less there is something which is very particular at your end, all seems to work fins here...Using a Floor with modified sub-elements and and split line

• I can place spot elevations and spot coordinates on both surfaces and on edges with no issues
• The filled/masking region is also working as expected. The annotations remain visible (Filled regions by design should not obscure annotations unless it is not a filled region what you are using.

Is it possible that you are using a generic annotation family with a masking region or nested filled masking region in it? 

[Mike.FORM]

Interesting. I am using just standard filled regions and masking regions.

I am using Revit 2024.1 (the other point updates have never installed properly for me) so maybe that is the issue.

I did not try the sloped floor or sub-element modified floors in 2025 or 2026 yet.

[leeUT3Y6]

I just found out that this is happening for all floors beneath the current view level.
Maybe this is the reason you could not reproduce the issue.

[RDAOU]

@leeUT3Y6 The floor element in the previous gif is on the top of structural level 3” below the FFL which is that of the current view.

The subelements of this floor component were modified and split line were added to generate various elevations for the sake of testing. Ie: it is not just below level but below level plus the -ve offset of the added sub elements

[leeUT3Y6]

The view in the gif is level 1, which is the lowest level.
Try the same on level 2, where level 2 is above the floor you are spotting