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Family types with different models

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tmccar
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Family types with different models

Is it possible to have a family where its various types are different models (so for instance a chair family would have different seat and back colours), or are you confined to working with one model and  its properties?

    I'm asking because I have a 3D chair which was modelled in Autocad and I can change the colour of the seat and back because they are seperate 3d solids, but in Revit it comes in as one model.

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Edwin.Rense
als Antwort auf: tmccar

You might if both seat an back are different subcategories, than you can use filters in the view.

If the colors have to differ in one view i would use nested families for the seat and back with shared parameters for the color so you can change them from the model per instance.

Maybe if you upload the chair family someone can take a look at it.

 

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Edwin Rense
Cadac Group AEC BV
Supporting Consultant AEC
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tmccar
als Antwort auf: Edwin.Rense

Thanks, I have uploaded the file now.

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mhiserZFHXS
als Antwort auf: tmccar

You can either use visibility settings or use <family type> parameters to do this.

 

And don't use CAD files to make families. Invest the time, do it right, and make it Revit.

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: tmccar
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Edwin.Rense
als Antwort auf: tmccar

Like @mhiserZFHXS stated, do not use DWG as 'Imported Categories' it makes things more complex.

 

Create a furniture family with a 'frame' a 'seat' and a 'back'.

Optional: Create subcategories for all 3.

Create the desired number of types (combinations of color. If you use two colors for back and seat there are 4 types.)

Example: Frame is always black:

Type 1: Back+Seat are RED

Type 2: Back and Seat are BLUE

Type 3: Back is RED and Seat is BLUE

Type 4: Back is BLUE and seat is RED.

Use existing or create the new materials.

Create (type) parameters (seat_color and back_color) to control the material.

 

If my post answers your question, please click the "Accept as Solution" button. This helps everyone find answers more quickly!

Kind regards,

Edwin Rense
Cadac Group AEC BV
Supporting Consultant AEC
Cadac Group .
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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: tmccar

What about View Specific Graphic Overrides?

 

Schoolchair.png

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tmccar
als Antwort auf: Edwin.Rense


@Edwin.Rense wrote:

Like @mhiserZFHXS stated, do not use DWG as 'Imported Categories' it makes things more complex.

 

Create a furniture family with a 'frame' a 'seat' and a 'back'.

Optional: Create subcategories for all 3.

Create the desired number of types (combinations of color. If you use two colors for back and seat there are 4 types.)

Example: Frame is always black:

Type 1: Back+Seat are RED

Type 2: Back and Seat are BLUE

Type 3: Back is RED and Seat is BLUE

Type 4: Back is BLUE and seat is RED.

Use existing or create the new materials.

Create (type) parameters (seat_color and back_color) to control the material.

 

 

 

Yes but the seat and back are fairly comnplex - difficult to  model in Revit. And also the frame. 


 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: tmccar

Schoolchair3.png

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: tmccar

Here's my quickie solution. See attached.  

 

NOTE: Frame is Shared and Nested into Seat and Back Family. Family 1=Seat/Back w/ Nested Frame. Family 2=Frame.  

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mhiserZFHXS
als Antwort auf: tmccar

Are these being rendered, or is this for documentation only?

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tmccar
als Antwort auf: mhiserZFHXS


@mhiserZFHXS wrote:

Are these being rendered, or is this for documentation only?


Not for rendering - more for mockups I believe.

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tmccar
als Antwort auf: barthbradley


@barthbradley wrote:

Here's my quickie solution. See attached.  

 

NOTE: Frame is Shared and Nested into Seat and Back Family. Family 1=Seat/Back w/ Nested Frame. Family 2=Frame.  


Thanks for that

Did you set colours in Autocad?

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: tmccar


@tmccar wrote:

@barthbradley wrote:

Here's my quickie solution. See attached.  

 

NOTE: Frame is Shared and Nested into Seat and Back Family. Family 1=Seat/Back w/ Nested Frame. Family 2=Frame.  


Thanks for that

Did you set colours in Autocad?


 

No. I changed the colors via Override Graphics in View By Element.  I showed a screenshot above.  You could also change colors via Filters.  

 

Schoolchair4.png

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mhiserZFHXS
als Antwort auf: tmccar

Then don't worry about all of the complex geometry. Model it in Revit and get it close.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: tmccar

Have you tried BIMObject.com? I found over a dozen (maybe more) Revit Families there for chairs that are very similar looking to yours.  

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