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Family frame creation - paramatic structural beam + column

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HAYDENRX9APH
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Family frame creation - paramatic structural beam + column

Hi 

I am having issues with a paramatic frame that I am making a family of. I want it to be adjustable in height, width and length. It mostly works however when I change from different types that I have set (i.e. different dimensions) it doesnt always seem to lock the dimensions and throws the constraint error.

I am not sure if this has to do with the way structural framing members and columns snap ? I might try doing it via a sweep but would prefer to do it this way.

Anyone able to suggest what i am missing? I have it all snapped to reference planes but just doesnt seem to want to stay. I think the error occurs when it goes from pod 5 to pod 4

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: HAYDENRX9APH

Are you using Structural Framing and Column families in this family?  That would one explanation.  

 

Just post the Family here.  

 

...FWIW: Revit 2012 & Nested Structural Columns Workarounds (youtube.com)

 

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: HAYDENRX9APH

Are the nested beam, column families shared?  It is more liable if they are NOT structural column / framing families, but generic or line based families then category changed to structural.

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HAYDENRX9APH
als Antwort auf: HAYDENRX9APH

i think i might have sorted it - think it was to do with disallowing beam joins at ends and providing more reference planes. now currently looks like this with reference planes each side evenly spaced

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was previously like this which i think was the wrong way to do it

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: HAYDENRX9APH

Why are you using Structural Framing Families in this Family? Serious as a heart attack question.  

 

Have you considered building this "Family" as an RVT that can be Loaded As Group into other RVTs?  

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HAYDENRX9APH
als Antwort auf: HAYDENRX9APH

mainly just due to it being a structural frame. yes have considered it although there is 40 or so to make and can all be inserted as families rather than models into a central model

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HAYDENRX9APH
als Antwort auf: HAYDENRX9APH

open to other suggestions although ive chewed a fair bit of time into this already 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: HAYDENRX9APH


@HAYDENRX9APH wrote:

open to other suggestions although ive chewed a fair bit of time into this already 


 

Well, I'd be happy to proffer advice if I understood what the deliverable was. That's precisely why I asked you why you are using Structural Framing and Column Families.  

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HAYDENRX9APH
als Antwort auf: HAYDENRX9APH

Gotcha - still having the issues unfortunately with the families breaking unfortunately.

I have put them all into 1 family with multiple types that have varying dimensions. 

Wondering if it would be easier to just create a separate family for each type that way there is no issues in changing between types. my errors are coming from changing between types - might be the solution.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: HAYDENRX9APH


@HAYDENRX9APH wrote:

Gotcha - still having the issues unfortunately with the families breaking unfortunately.

 


Unfortunately, I don't "Gotcha" and given the lack of feedback and specifics from you, I don't think anyone here will be able to help you figure out why your Families are "breaking" -- whatever that means in your world. 

 

Maybe you can answer this question: why not do what @ToanDN suggested?  

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HAYDENRX9APH
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Sure. When changing between the different family types it will break the constraints I have made (to the references) and break the frame. I have currently got it as a generic model family with structural framing member + structural column inserted. - what would be the new suggestion be for line based ? what family template do i use ?

Do you want me to send you the rfa to look

Thankyou

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: HAYDENRX9APH


@HAYDENRX9APH wrote:

Sure. When changing between the different family types it will break the constraints I have made (to the references) and break the frame. I have currently got it as a generic model family with structural framing member + structural column inserted. - what would be the new suggestion be for line based ? what family template do i use ?

Do you want me to send you the rfa to look

Thankyou

 

 

 


 

Sure. Post the RFA.  Know how? As an Attachment in a Reply Post.  

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: HAYDENRX9APH

@HAYDENRX9APH, post the rfa here to this thread. Hit Reply to this Post and then scroll down to Attachments and press Browse to locate the rfa on your Computer.  

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