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Face based roof window not being cut in floorplan view

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ConstantineC
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Face based roof window not being cut in floorplan view

I have modeled a triangular window to be used on attic kind of roof.

I have modeled as a generic model face-based but when I change its category to Window, it does not being cut correctly in the floorplan.

No matter what settings I choose in the Window family visibility, nothing changes, it displays it like a top view.

How can I have it shown in a Window schedule and  have it cut correctly in the floorplan view?

 

This is as a Window category

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This is as a generic face-based

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ConstantineC
als Antwort auf: ConstantineC

I just found that you Windows are not cut by the cutplane so the question remains if there is any for a generic model can show in a Window schedule? 

Or can I make another type of schedule to include windows and specific generic models?

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anze.kumar
als Antwort auf: ConstantineC

If you want to have a Windows Category as a family, you could do a workaround:

- In the family editor, make all the Solids (elements) - to NOT be visible in e.g. FIne, Medium Detail Level and not be "Plan/RCP"

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- Then you would need to create" Symbolic Lines" in the same Areas (or cut planes) that you want it to be seen in your Floor plan in project. These Symbolic Lines have their own Subcategory, which you can control under Windows Category in you Project.

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It take some work in the Family of the window - you have to properly align and Lock all the symbolic lines, but once it works, you should be able to see the window properly cut.

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ConstantineC
als Antwort auf: ConstantineC

Thanks! Yeah I think this is the way or I could even just mask directly in the floorplan view since is a unique singular window of that type.

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ConstantineC
als Antwort auf: anze.kumar

@anze.kumar I managed to hide the window but the symbolic line do not show up.

Could it be becasue the window is a face-based component? 

The refernece level is actually the front view of the window.

ConstantineC_0-1687168589200.png

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ConstantineC
als Antwort auf: ConstantineC

Update. The lines show up in floorplan IF I convert them from Symbolic lines to Model lines

But thats  not very helpfull if I want to mask or fill certain things

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anze.kumar
als Antwort auf: ConstantineC

I don't quite understand what you mean with the reference level being the front view of the window. 
As for visibility, I think it should not matter whether it is face based or wall-based. I would check couple of things, the priority one being:

1. In the family of the Window, check if you have all the Symbolic Lines correctly modelled and set the correct Visibility setting (also, try unticking the bracket shown below in picture)

anzekumar_0-1687169338091.png

 

2. Then in your project, check if all the Smybolic Lines that you modelled in the family are checked in the V/G settings Also check which Model Display do you have turned on in your Floor Plan (Course, Medium, Detail).

anzekumar_0-1687169564236.png

 

Then also check in your reference level which is cutting the window actually cuts the window and/or adjust View Range appropriately.

OR maybe the Extrusions of the Window are "blocking" the Lines - try setting Transparency to Window and see if the Lines show up.

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ConstantineC
als Antwort auf: ConstantineC

I mean this is the floorplan view of the window family.

The window is cutby the cutplane because if I set it to generic model its fine.

Could you better have a look at the actual family? I have attached it here.

 

 

 

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anze.kumar
als Antwort auf: ConstantineC

Ok, I tried something without Smbyolic Lines and the Window lines are shown in Floor Plan (when cut) and also in section.

 

- Choose Extrusion of the Frame and set it as "Frame/Mullion" subcategory and make it seen in all Detail levels.

-Make sure in your rpoject that "Frame/Mullion subcategory is checked then reload your family to the project

anzekumar_0-1687177499841.png

 

 

This is you family of window inserted in my tested project (sloped Roof/Floor).

 

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ConstantineC
als Antwort auf: anze.kumar

Can you upload the family with your new settings?

I tried with your settings but nothing is changing. I have placed it on a sloped roof as you can see on the second image. Its represented from a top view.

 

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anze.kumar
als Antwort auf: ConstantineC

In the family almost everything is the same..

 

When cutting the window in your project, you can modify how a certain Subcategory is presented. See example bellow for Frame/Mullion.

 

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Then, when you insert your family with modified Visibility settings, you see a cut like this (at least in my case):

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