Elevation symbols too big, Revit Lt user

[NP---MD]

Hi, 

I'm a Revit Lt user. 

The elevation symbols in my 1:200 plan are huge. I've tried all the tweaks in the type properties and just can't get it smaller. 

Is this a Revit LT limitation? 

How can you decrease the size of these symbols? 

Also, there is a detail number showing that I don't need. 

See image attached. 

VERY grateful for any help! 

[barthbradley]

They are annotative. Maybe your building and "Kitchen Dining" and spot elevations is too small?  😉  

[barthbradley]

Duplicate that View. Change the View Scale of the Duplicate. Place both Views on the same Sheet.  The Elevation Symbol between both Views on the Sheet are the exact same size; right? 

[Mike.FORM · Accepted solution]

To make the symbol smaller you need to edit the 2 families associated with the elevation marker.

Select your elevation marker, then click edit type, click the ... at the end of the Elevation Tag line, then find the family in the project browser indicated in the Elevation Mark line.

Edit that family and the nested pointer family as needed.

As for the number, the one you have circled is the detail number of the drawing as placed on the sheet and the 20 is the sheet number itself. If you get rid of the circled number the tag will no longer reference a particular detail on the sheet. If you only have one drawing on a sheet this is technically not needed. If you want I would associate a visibility type parameter to the label then use a family type parameter so you can assign the pointer type in the host marker family, then in project you will need a type with the number turned off and another type with it turned on.

[NP---MD]

Perfect thank you!

[ryan_t_ralston · Accepted solution]

You'll need to edit the loadable families that are used to create the system tag.

1. In a plan view, select the Elevation Marker you'd like to change. (Note: Start by selecting the circle (or square) 'body' portion of the marker, not the triangular 'pointer' portion.)
2. Select 'Edit Type' from your 'Properties' panel.
3. Select the row for 'Elevation Tag' and click the small box [...] that appears to the far right of the row.
4. The 'Elevation Mark' row will show the name of the family you need to edit.
5. Write down the family name and cancel out of these windows.
6. Head to your 'Project Browser' panel.
7. Scroll down to Families>Annotation Symbols>[name of the family from Step 5]
8. Right click the family and select 'Edit' from the menu.
9. Upon the family opening, go to File>Save As and rename this family with a new name according to your company standards. (Note: If your company doesn't have naming conventions you will still want to create a new name to prevent overwriting the existing elevation marker that may be used elsewhere in the project.)
10. Now there should be four instances of a pointer family around the 'body' family we are currently editing. Hide those nested families with the 'Temporary Hide/Isolate' tool at the bottom of your editing window.
11. Edit the lines and labels in your body family as necessary. (Note: You may need/want to adjust your 'Visibility/Graphic Overrides' so that 'Annotation Categories>Reference Planes' are visible. This is especially helpful if the family has parameters controlling dimensions.)
12. Reset 'Temporary Hide/Isolate' so the pointer families are visible again.
13. In your Project Browser, navigate to Families>Annotation Symbols>[name of nested pointer family]. 
14. Right click the nested family, select rename and give name that corresponds with the body family name.
15. Confirm rename with the enter key and right click the family again, this time selecting 'Edit' from the menu.
16. Adjust the lines and labels in the 'pointer' family to coordinate with the 'body' family just adjusted.
17. Once done editing, select 'Load into Project and Close' at the top right tool bar.
18. Select the 'body' family from the 'Load into Projects' dialog that pops up and save as necessary in accordance with your office standards.
19. Confirm visually that the adjustments made in both families align to each other. Once things are adjusted to your satisfaction, select 'Load into Project and Close' from the top right.
20. Select the relevant project to load into (if prompted) and save per office standards.
21. Navigate to a plan view with an existing elevation marker and select it.
22. Select 'Edit Type' from the 'Properties' panel.
23. Click 'Duplicate...' in the upper right of the window, name your new marker type, click OK.
24. Select the row for 'Elevation Tag' and click the small box [...] that appears to the far right of the row.
25. In this second type editor window, click 'Duplicate...' again and provide new name, click 'OK'.
26. Select the new body family you just created from the dropdown menu in the 'Elevation Mark' row.
27. Click 'OK' in this Sub-Type Properties dialog and 'OK' again in the original Type Properties dialog.
28. That should be it. Take a look in the project and confirm that the new and any existing markers are acting appropriately.

[barthbradley]

12b.  Pause. Get up. Stretch your legs - and mouse clicker finger.   

12c.  Sit down and resume.  

😉 

[RSomppi]

Good answer!

[NP---MD]

Thanks - very thorough answer!

[ryan_t_ralston]

You're welcome. Realizing now, it may have been a lot easier to just screen capture a quick video of the process, but hopefully this helped you navigate through all the nested components step by step.