Got a real puzzler. Have a door family that we have added an ADA approach clearance sub-family. This sub-family has a yes/no Visibility parameter associated with it. (this family has all the possible approach clearances, and you choose which you wish to use: any, none, or all on has no effect to door tag location- just the overall on/off visibility parameter) If you Tag the Door in plan, everything is fine, regardless of whether you can see the ADA sub-family or not, BUT in elevation if the ADA sub-family is set to be seen in plan (set to not be visible in any other view other than plan/rpc) the Door Tag when placed will be to the right of the door rather than at its center. If you turn the ADA-clearance visibility to "off", in plan, the tag goes to door center. The ADA-clr family has no vertical element at all (completely annotation lines in plan)
Any ideas as to why this parameter/family affects the elevation tag location? when its not even supposed to be visible in elevation...
Revit 2023
Thanks in advance for any clues to the reason
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I have some guesses, but why don't you just post the family so we don't have to guess. Make it quick and easy.
i was hoping you would reply, and hoping you wouldnt want the revit file... i made a group and saved it, hope it comes thru.
@ccastelein wrote:i was hoping you would reply, and hoping you wouldnt want the revit file... i made a group and saved it, hope it comes thru.
I came through just fine. I'm confident I could fix it so the tags would land where you want in elevation, but I'd need to rebuild the family and you've got a lot in it that I would do differently. That's too much work. If I had to use such a family in a project of mine, I'd probably just deal with its idiosyncrasies.
It is because you use model lines in the nested clearance families. If you only need to see them in plan then use detail lines, or use nested detail component families instead.
AH!!!!, Thank you.
I will correct that right away and let you know...
I knew you guys would know.
ccastelein
well..... i converted model lines to symbolic lines and reloaded sub family into door family and loaded into project, and the door tag did NOT change its insertion placement (which is off center)....
so i noticed on updating these lines that there was a Reference Line that seemed to be the approximate location where these tags would center on, modified this Ref Line to be centered on the door and THAT solved the problem of off-centering the door tags... (or maybe both together solved it) either way the problem of off-centered tag locations has been solved.. thanks for your help.
ccastelein
Reference lines ARE model elements, same as model lines. You do need to change model lines to symbolic lines and change ref lines that need planes.
so why are reference lines model lines? (off topic) you cant see them.... just curious. wondering the logic.
You don't see them because they are for references, same as ref planes. But they are 3d and you can see them in 3d in the family. Another indication is that if you want to grip stretch a family in the project, you use ref lines, not ref planes, in the family and assign instance dimension parameters to them.
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