Door placement in wall

[mairh_tsek]

Hello all,

I want to place my door in the insulation as the image below (2nd case).

In order to do that I used two separate walls (one for the insulation and one for the concrete) and I also create an opening in the concrete wall. I am thinking that if I will do this approach in all the doors and windows that I have in my project it would be a mess with all of  these openings.

Which is the correct way to place the door like this in a wall structure? Do you use two separate walls or one wall ?

Thank you for your ideas!

[ennujozlagam]

hello, you need to consider your door jamb in real construction installation. thanks

[mairh_tsek]

@ennujozlagam , 

 I don't have door jamb in this case.

[ennujozlagam]

then, i still prefer the one wall with door you don't need to create door opening to another wall. thanks

[mairh_tsek]

So is there any way having one wall to place the door like the 2nd way? 

Thank you!

[ennujozlagam]

you wrote

So is there any way having one wall to place the door like the 2nd way

No, if you have two walls, it's time consuming you need to create another void/opening for the door what happen if you relocate the door you need to delete the opening you created and make a new one? One wall with the door is acceptable in the real world

[ennujozlagam]

hello, if you like something like this, please see attached just join geometry the two different wall type . thanks

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

If I had many doors like this and also wanted good collaboration with the structural team, I would use 2 walls, but I would lose the opening cut in the door family.

Instead I would model a void extrusion in the door family (in the horizontal plane) and join the 2 walls together. It should cut both walls as expected.

Something like this:

I am getting this now without another opening in the concrete wall:

[mairh_tsek]

@Anonymous , 

About your second approach with the void opening:

1. Do you have created two walls in the door family also?

2. Do you have placed the door in one wall, in the project ?

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

There is only one wall in the door family (I don't think you can add 2 walls in the family editor).

The door is placed in the "insulation" wall and it also cuts the concrete one. The condition for that is that the concrete wall must be joined with the insulation wall in the Revit project.

[ennujozlagam]

Hello, it looks like an interesting approach, don't mind to show to us, how are you going to do that. Thanks

[Anonymous]

I made a quick screencast that shows how it works.

Basically you model the void extrusion in the door family and cut the wall in the family with it. 

Then, in the Revit project you use the Join Geometry tool to join the two walls together.

After that, when you insert the door, the second wall will be also cut.

[mairh_tsek]

@Anonymous , 

When I create the void opening in the family, the door profiles also are cutted.

See images below.

I am sure that I am missing something.

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

In the door family, the void extrusion must cut your entire wall.

The smaller part of the extrusion is for the concrete wall and should be aligned with the door profiles on the inside.

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

I managed to find Revit 2018 and did another screencast.

You can also find the family for 2018, but you would still need to align the extrusion correctly.