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Door Lintel not showing on desired cut plane level

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i_hasib
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Door Lintel not showing on desired cut plane level

Hello all. I am having a problem. I have created a door family with a lintel above creating a volume on the wall and it's flexing well. problem is, i am trying to prepare a plan showing only lintel. Which is not showing correctly on desired cut level. 
I have attached some screenshot. The door is 7'-0" height on the plan, and the cut plane is set to 7'-2" as the lintel is 4"  on depth.  The lintel is set as "when cut in plan/RCp"  

If i change the view range on the family level( like 7'-2"), problem goes but  the display on the project file floor plans  changes with different cut level not showing the door opening ( like cutting at 4'-0") which shows only the lintel then. 

What is the solution! Anyone can Help! 

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mhiserZFHXS
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

I'm guessing you have the Plan/RCP box unchecked if you go into the lintels visbility/graphics overrides.

 

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i_hasib
als Antwort auf: mhiserZFHXS

"When cut in plan/RPC" is on, along with left, right. But not plan/RPC.  ( see door5 on attached image)

If i add plan/RPC it shows the lintel, then again if i cut at 4'-0" level for the door opening to show, the lintel shows over the door opening view.  ( see Doo6 on attached attached image)

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i_hasib
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

Basically, the extruded lintel i have created on the door frame is not showing on it's level of cutting ( see attached image, Lintel is at 7' with 4" depth upward). 

All part is created inside door family. 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

What you are describing is exactly how Revit displays Door and Windows.  

 

https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Revit-Windows-and-...

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

Not clear on what you want though. Do you want to see the Lintel or not in Project Plan View?  

 

...if you want to see it, why don't you model it another Family (such as Generic) and nest it into the Door Family?  Maybe model the Lintel in its own Subcategory so you can control its visibility in Project Views.  I mean, it's not typical to show Lintels in Plan Views, so maybe you should have a way to turn it on and off depending on what you want a particular View to show.  

 

https://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2022/ENU/?guid=GUID-8C1F9882-E4AB-4E03-A735-8C44F19E194B

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

So you still want to show the lintel when the cut plane is below it?

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i_hasib
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Yes i want to show a separate level with only showing lintels over wall in floor plan. It's required on our working drawings.

Making the lintel as a generic and then add it into the door family may work as you've suggested. Thanks. I'll have to try how to do it.

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: i_hasib


@i_hasib wrote:

 

 

Making the lintel as a generic and then add it into the door family may work as you've suggested. 

 


 

It will work. No doubt about it.  Don't forget the Subcategory TIP.  You'll thank me later. Promise.  

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i_hasib
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Sorry, i am new with Revit so my knowledge is limited. 

I  have tried the generic model for lintel and added into the custom family door. I am facing two problems.
1. I cannot set and relate any parameter of the wall thickness relation to the lintel(generic model) other 2 parameters (depth+lendth) can be set but not the wall thickness part. Can you help how to do it! 
2. I have added the sub-category for the lintel(generic model). It woks on generic model v\g view but cannot find on the door family v\g list. Any idea why!  Sorry for being so amateur. 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

Post the family here and we'll fix 'er up. 

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i_hasib
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

Here they are, main lintel is the generic, other one is door family. 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: i_hasib


@i_hasib wrote:

Sorry, i am new with Revit so my knowledge is limited. 

I  have tried the generic model for lintel and added into the custom family door. I am facing two problems.
1. I cannot set and relate any parameter of the wall thickness relation to the lintel(generic model) other 2 parameters (depth+lendth) can be set but not the wall thickness part. Can you help how to do it! 
2. I have added the sub-category for the lintel(generic model). It woks on generic model v\g view but cannot find on the door family v\g list. Any idea why!  Sorry for being so amateur. 


 

Lintel Family needs to be SHARED and Parameters in Lintel Family need to be Instance Parameters and Associated to Host/Parent Parameters. As for the Lintel Subcategory, that will be available at the Project level. 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

Try this one. Hopefully I didn't miss anything.  Let me know.

 

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

oops. Try this one instead...

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i_hasib
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

Works perfectly. Thanks a million @barthbradley. Can you share how did you add that host wall thickness parameter! 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

It's a Reporting Parameter - a very special one.  It's used in a Formula.  

 

The secret is to pull the dimension between the Family's Host Wall Faces ONLY (e.g. exterior face to interior face) - NOT REFERENCE PLANES.  Reporting parameters can only be used in formulas if their dimension references are to host elements in the family. Learn that mantra.  Revit will bark it at you from time to time. 

 

 Help | About Reporting Parameters | Autodesk

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i_hasib
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

I tried it, it works. Thanks again. 

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i_hasib
als Antwort auf: i_hasib

@barthbradley Hello, how are you. Hope you are doing great. I am having difficulty adding the lintel on schedule and tag. Can you guide me how to achieve that! 

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